BB is the most overrated coach in NFL history. I read a story this week that BB thought he was going to get fired the same year before Brady took over. They also said that BB figure it out how to be a great coach. He just got lucky that Brady saved his job.
Belichick has 1 playoff appearance in his 6 seasons without Brady, a bunch of 3rd and 4th place finishes. A losing record of 52-60 I believe over 6 seasons. Without Bradys hes nothing, all "great" coaches need a QB. Hes not a genius either, hes very vulnerable and has made some very questionable calls. Even tonight, that challenge was HORRIBLE. Belichick was standing RIGHT there where Manningham caught the ball, he was litteraly right there and couldnt figure it out. Like wtf, get fucking glasses if you cant see that. I saw him catch it from the TV, and Belichick was 2 feet away and couldnt see it.
Yes and no. Most of the coaches who are considered to be the best coaches happened to coach one of their generation's great QBs. Chuck Knoll had Bradhsaw. Bill Walsh and Joe Seifert had Montana. Jimmy Johnson had Aikman. Shanny had Elway. Shula had Marino (among others). Holmgren had Favre. BB has Brady. I don't think that's a coincidence. Many of these guys had much less success before and after those QBs were cut, traded, or retired. I don't think it makes him necessarily overrated because he has lost the last 2 Super Bowls he's coached in. Over the years, I think he's consistently had his team prepared each and every week and often comes up with great game plans. As for the challenge, he knew it was a catch. He challenged it because he had no choice. If you watch the replay, he doesn't even react to the catch. Had he really thought it was incomplete, he would've acted outraged that they called it a catch. It was the coaching equivalent of a Hail Mary.
Sadly I agree to but he really has 8 superbowl appearances and 5 wins. One has to wonder how much of Parcells wins was Belichick and how much was Parcells. Belichick has shown he can win on his own but Parcells has not been able to do the same. But then again the previous poster does make a very valid point in todays QB driven NFL a great QB makes a great coach. The Pats 1st SB win was a product of good coaching and his two rings with the Giants had a lot to do with his defenses. He certainly outcoached the Rams badly. Winning is often if not usually about luck. Change a couple of plays from his first two SBs and he loses both and change one play from his last two and he wins both. The Pats were not a very good team this year. The Jets were a much more talented team in every area but QB. Even with Brady Belichick did a fine job this year. This year the field of top teams was pretty weak. It was really a missed opportunity for a team like the Jets.
Bill Parcells is arguably the best coach in the history of the NFL. I'll give Bellicheck his due. He is a very good coach (not much of a human being but a very good coach). Parcells coached linebackers and defense before being named head coach. Bellicheck was an assistant coach for a very long time before getting his big break as head coach. If he is so much better than Parcells, why did the Patriots and Jets consider him to be a successor or coach in waiting instead of dumping Parcells and annointing the genius? Yes Bill made Bill but it was Parcells who made Bellichek, not the other way around.
Couldn't put it any better. Especially the "Over the years,..." comment. Anybody who knows football knows that any coach in the SB would've challenged that Manningham catch just to make sure it was a catch. U would've hate to have him be out of bounds and NOT challenge it in the 4th.
he's not the greatest of all time. if you're referring to people who consider him god, then yeah.. i agree he's overrated. but let's give credit where credit is due. this guy is an elite nfl coach. "oh man! this guy lost ANOTHER super bowl? he sucks!" that's just crazy talk. he's been to 5 super bowls in 11 years or whatever. that's pretty much a sb appearance every other year. that's ridiculous in a league that brags about its parity. trying to discredit him for having brady isn't fair. good coaches need good qbs and vice versa. once upon a time, brady was an unknown sixth round draft pick in his second year. and they won a super bowl. who's to say brady would have turned out like he did without bb? the tight end offense.. impressive. the fact that all of his assistants get head coaching gigs and fail.. more evidence that the credit should go to belichick. being on the hot seat is just part of the territory of being an nfl coach. coughlin dealt with those rumors during both super bowl runs. that doesn't make him any less of a coach.
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Coming from a fan of a team with a big mouthed buffoon for HC, calling Belichick "the most overrated coach in NFL history" is downright hilarious. FTR, that story you read is unlikely to be factual or your reading comprehension is seriously deficient. Belichick was hired to coach the Patriots in 2000, and the team suffered through a 5-11 season. Brady took over for the injured Drew Bledsoe in the opening game of the 2001 season. Now maybe that's when Belichick worried about his job, having lost his starting QB for an unknown amount of time, but the fact is that he developed and guided Brady to play well enough to win a Super Bowl that season.
I would agree with this. Is he the greatest ever. I would say no. He has an all time QB and just like most coaches if put in a situation where you don't have a QB or a patient owner he failed as well. I would also say. He is a Wes Welker catch and an Asante Samuel interception (eerily similar drops late in the game) away from having 5 super bowls to his name as a head coach and a perfect season. Sure you can run what if's out there with just about every team but those two plays cannot be coached. The players just didnt make them. and like you said the assitant coaches failing everywhere else is a sign that he is the brains behind the operation. He also has a team that is well disciplined and commits few turnovers another sign of a good coach. I can't stand the guy because I think he's a lousy person but he is a good coach.
Belicheck cutting a young wide receiver the day before the fucking superbowl to bring up a defensive player that never saw the field says it all. Belicheck is a heartless asshole. And the fact that the receivers he kept dropped more passes than verizon dropped cell phone calls is very fitting.
you mean like going on about picking a FB in the 3rd round and then never shut up about it. The terminatoooooor!!
