Mark Sanchez is the least effective QB in the league when under pressure.

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  1. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Rofl, you reference the crappy Oline and in the same post quote me saying that the entire article is based on percentages, so the # of pressures doesn't matter as long as it is over a certain minimum.

    Were you trying to come off as ignorant? Lol @ putting words in my mouth saying I want McElroy starting. Show me where I said that.
     
  2. thegreatwayne80

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    this is the problem with the media. Eli got a free pass for his 30ish turnovers last year and when sanchez has less turnovers this year with more scoring plays ( throwing TDS, and Rushing TDs) as a third year quarterback he gets bashed. No one is going to say that he played well the last 3 games but through his first 13 games he was a Top 3 afc quarterback at the time.
     
  3. Braylon4ever

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    Let me guess :


    You have an account on JI, right? :rolleyes:
     
  4. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    Top 3 in AFC? Isn't that a stretch? Do stats back this up?
     
  5. Braylon4ever

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    Uhh..no... I'm simply saying that any QB that faced the type of pressure Mark did where he had no shot of even completing his drop-back with defensive backs already on him at that point would struggle.

    Don't know where you got that I was talking about the bolded you stated...

    And me mentioning McElroy is just illustrating that you'd rather have another QB as the NY Jets QB......RIGHT NOW.

    I mean....why else would a Jets fan post this OP for any other purpose other than to subtly(or not so subtly, in your case) state that without actually stating it?
     
  6. AJ Duhe

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    This should be entertaining.
     
  7. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Back it up.
     
  8. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    I would say the 6 playoff games he's started on the road were pretty high pressure, and he's been outstanding in those.
     
  9. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    I wish there was way we could break down these stats even more to pressure from 3/4 man fronts and pressure from 5 plus. I would assume the majority of the pressure should be from 5+ defenders, but I remember a countless amount of times 3/4 man rush would get through our o line. If it was 3/4 man rush we can break it down to a) Mark holding onto the ball too long b) o line not doing their job c) receivers not getting separation.

    These stats would be really bad if almost all this pressure was from blitzes because then it means Sanchez couldn't identify and hit a hot read. Compare this to 3/4 men bring pressure and having maybe 3 or 4 options covered 7/8 defenders and it really makes thing more difficult. Say we are 3rd and long because of a Mulligan penalty and then you have 7/8 guys dropping back waiting for 3/4 WR's to get to the 1st down marker.

    These stats are a good start, but it would be interesting to see Sanchez vs pressure from 3/4 man front and 5+ rushers. We could really see what he caused.
     
  10. Nilton

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    Wrong. Manning was pressured more and handled it the best. So yeah. inb4comparing7yearelito3yearsanchez
     
  11. Braylon4ever

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    I'm not comparing Eli to Sanchez.

    Get a grip.
     
  12. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    700 posts in under a month...jeez dude lol.
     
  13. Braylon4ever

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    I love to post here. It's great! :)
     
  14. Phear

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    I don't see what his post count has to do with the discussion on hand.
     
  15. Phear

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    Yes but besides Sanchez and the o line playing like shit, Sanchez's #1 and #2 WRs were playing like bitches and couldn't get any separation. People who hate Sanchez point to him as the primary problem. Those with common sense can see that the entire offense sucked donkey dick. Statistically Sanchez's stats increased from last year, yes he looked horrible during some games this year. Isn't it feasible that if the o line plays better and his WRs get separation Sanchez also plays better? Just going on what I've seen of him the two years previous with a good line and better WR play, I think he would have. How much better? Who knows, I'm sure it wouldn't have been worse.
     
  16. Nilton

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    It was no hidden secret that a lot of sacks could have been prevented.
     
  17. BakerMaker

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    The O-Line not counting Wayne Hunter is solid.

    Too bad Hunter counts....he is not average, he is dreadful. People who watch the games can see Sanchez gets at best 3 seconds to look after a snap before a man is after him and Sanchez is navigating them and throwing an erratic pass to targets that have trouble getting separation.
     
  18. tanknyc

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    Please name Qbs this year that had no protection and had a great season? Problem is there is no loyalty. Mark Sanchez has regressed cuz second year he lost Faneca third year he lost woody two veteran linemen. Jets need to stop gambling on project players and find play now players cuz our window of opportunity is closing.
     
  19. SettlerDawg

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    For those saying that the o-line played like shit, you're wrong. Granted there were games were the o-line struggled a lot (Ravens, Raiders) but there were many more instances of good play, and the o-line should absolutely not be used as an excuse for Sanchez's poor play. Hunter was the only consistently bad player on the o-line. Dbrick played worse than his norm, but he still played well. A lot of the pressure and sacks that Sanchez took was from him holding onto the ball too long and not stepping up into the pocket.
     
  20. SettlerDawg

    SettlerDawg Well-Known Member

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    Faneca was the worst o-lineman in 2009 and it was the correct move to let him go. Woody needs to be replaced because of Hunter's poor play. Lucky for us, this draft has Mike Adams and Cordy Glenn around where we pick. If we draft one of them, the o-line would be top 5 in the league.
     

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