If the Jets do pursue and end up signing Manning what can the Jets get for Sanchez in a trade? The situation is a bit different than when the Jets signed Favre. To make salary cap room for Favre the Jets had to cut Pennington. There is no immediate need for the Jets to do this. They can take their time on trading or cutting Sanchez. The question then is what is a 25 year old QB that has started 6 playoff games and 3 full seasons worth? Below is a list of QB trades the last 10 years. It is very unusual to trade a young starting QB. Cutler is the only real recent example and he commanded a kings ransom in Orton, 2 1sts and a third. Palmer an aging QB required two 1sts. One would think the price would be very high. But is there a market for Sanchez even if he was cut? The problem with Sanchez is he is mistake prone but does nothing very well. He is not a QB that can throw from the pocket, At best he is a game manager and needs a strong running game to have any success. He is unable to make accurate pre-snap reads and when confused he panics and breaks down. His best ability is he is able to execute QB run plays near the goal line setting up a lot of easy play action TDs. Besides that he really does nothing well. There may be coaches that think they can fix him and winning 4 playoff games will gain attention. But if he was cut tomorrow he may have a very hard time finding a starting job. The only teams that should have a much of an interest at all are the Dolphins, Browns, Colts, Jaguars, Redskins, Seahawks and Cardinals. Dolphins - Sanchez is not an upgrade over Moore. Having watched Sanchez for 3 years the Dolphins shouldknow Sanchez is not an upgrade. Browns - They already have a bad QB but at least their bad QB is tough and mobile. More than likely they will try to upgrade in the draft. Sanchez just gives them what they already have. The Browns and Redskins have both been linked to Griffin in the draft. Holding the 4 pick Griffin seems to be on the Browns radar. Colts - Andrew Luck Jaguars - After Gabbert I doubt they want to draft another QB. Sanchez might be the short term answer if they have given up on Gabbert. Redskins - Sanchez is a big name and that might be good enough for Dan Snyder. Not to mention their CS thought Beck and Grossman were the answer. In reality Grossman is a much better QB than Sanchez. Like Sanchez he makes to many mistakes but unlike Sanchez he has upside and can actually make plays out of the pocket. Ideally the redskins would like Griffin but to get him they may need to trade up. Sanchez could be a nice short time answer. Seahawks - The Seahwaks were willing to trade for Whiteburst. Why not Sanchez? Arizona - They have been searching for an answer since Warner left. They made a desperate trade with the Eagles last year for Kolb. For the last 40 years they have had the word sucker stamped over their forehead. More than likely Sanchez would end up 3rd string with the cardinals quite quickly. But they are a likely partner. Likely there are only 3 possibilities the Jaguars, Seahawaks and Cardinals. Given the limited market for Sanchez his value might be a lot less than the 1st or 2nd one would expect. But then again it only takes one stupid GM to make a trade. Recent QB trades Palmer 2012 first round pick and a conditional first round pick in 2013 and a second-round pick in 2012. Kolb for cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and a second round pick. McNabb to Vikings 2012 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional sixth-round pick for 2013 going to Washington McNabb to Redskins second-round pick (37th overall) in this month's NFL draft and a fourth-round pick next year. Whitehurst 2011 third-round pick, Seattle and San Diego swapped 2010 second-round picks (San Diego got the 40th pick while Seattle moved down to 60th) Cutler Kyle Orton, 2009 first-round pick, 2010 first-round pick, 2009 third-round pick. Chicago also received a fifth-round pick in the deal. Cassell 2009 second-round pick Bollinger 6th Round Pick Schaub 2007 2nd round pick, 2008 2nd round pick, and Atlanta and Houston swapped 2007 1st round picks (Atlanta received the 8th pick while Houston moved back to 10th Bledsoe to Bills 2003 first-round pick Trent Green to KC 2001 first-round pick. (St. Louis received a fifth-round pick from the Chiefs as well) Hasselback 2001 thirrd-round pick, Seattle and Green Bay swapped 2001 first-round picks (Green Bay moved up to 10th while Seattle moved back to 17th Rob Johnson 1998 first-round pick, 1998 fourth-round pick
This shit is crazy. Didn't Pete "The Meat" King just report that Peyton is struggling to get healthy like yesterday or some shit ?
I think we are going to have to resign ourselves to the fact that #6 is our qb for at least next year. Manning is not coming, which I think is a good thing(how did the last aging hall of famer we signed work out?) so stop the hate and let's see what happens. Bring back Braylon, go sign a stud running back and a veteran tight end. Get Matthew mulligan to pick them up at the airport(hopefully he won't screw that up too) let sparano work and let's hope for the best.
That's because Sanchez was drafted before rookie contract scaling and Newton after. Compare Cam's salary to Bradford's as they were both #1 picks and there is a drastic difference pre rookie contracts to after. EDIT: rookie wage scale is the term I couldn't remember. above poster got it.
I know that..I only wish it was implemented years ago, instead of paying retards like Jamarcus Russell.
We have no idea what Sanchez does well when he's playing in a normal NFL offensive set. Obviously he has never played in that in the three seasons he's been a Jet. Every QB who played in this system has come to grief in the end. Sanchez will be the first QB who has a chance to survive the experience and continue to play as a Jet. Both Favre and Chad had career years after escaping from the mutant. Maybe Sanchez will also?
I think it would be extremely difficult to put a value on Mark at this point. On one hand he's had a good deal of success over 3 seasons with a very good winning percentage, some awesome comebacks and 4 road playoff wins. On the other hand he's been very inconsistent, hasn't shown the leadership you want to see from a franchise QB and is still too prone to making costly turnovers. I'm not sure how you figure it out. That said, I think it's very unrealistic that the Jets would look to deal him. Why would they completely overhaul the offensive coaching staff if they thought Sanchez was the problem?
The one thing that makes me think they might be thinking about moving on from Sanchez is that Schotty picked him as the guy who could run his system. No more Schotty might well mean no more Sanchez.
Pretty much it man. Why would we change the majority of our coaching staff and not give a young QB who has shown very good signs (yet inconsistent) another year in an actual offense. Dealing Sanchez would be a terrible idea IMO. Makes no sense...
Yeah, but the whole organization had to be behind that pick. Picking a “franchise QB” with the 5th overall pick before they changed the rookie scaling is something everyone has to be behind; its not like the 29th overall pick. They gave up a lot (even though we trade raped Cle.) and invested a lot of time in him... At least I would expect the entire organization to be behind the pick of the future at the QB position.
If we do not get Manning, as is health is a huge question, it is likely we bring in a viable backup who at some point is likely to win the starting job and put Sanchez on the bench next year. Whether that is Orton, Campbell, Garrad, Henne or whomever. If we had a viable back up in 2010 or 2011 Sanchez would have likely finished the season on the bench. With a reasonable living alternative its probable Sanchez will be on the bench by mid season. Better to get some value for him while we can and get rid of his overpriced salary sooner than later.
if you really want to give sanchez a wake-up call, put him out there as available and see who/what teams bid for him. that should introduce reality to him, since i bet the offers, if any, are for late round picks, and not very many.
I'm sure Schotty must have had some input in the conversation, but I have to doubt that his opinion carried much weight as far as the FO deciding to go after Sanchez. In any case, I really hope you're wrong.
Oh yeah that would be a wake-up call all right. The Jets would suddenly see one of two things happen: 1. They get an offer of some value for Sanchez and realize they have to take it because he's no longer invested in being the Jets QB. 2. They get low-balled by everybody and then have to deal with a locker room that thinks the franchise does not value Sanchez. He winds up getting cut in that circumstance most likely or traded for very little value. The wake-up call: The Jets have no QB and lousy prospects to go find one.
