WEWANTSAPP'S 2012 Mock Offseason - V2 - 1/30/2012

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  1. wewantsapp

    wewantsapp Well-Known Member

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    Jets Free Agents;

    Sione Pouha --- have to re-sign him.
    Jim Leonard ---- Rex favorite & the team is better with him.
    Patrick Turner --- if a work ethic could really cement its way into this kid’s
    head he could become something.
    Nick Folk -------- sorry, but options are limited

    Goodbye to Plax, Aaron Maybin, Brunell, Mulligan (you piece of shit), Pool, LT, B. Thomas, O’Connell.


    Off-season signings
    LaRon Landry (SS) Washington – he would actually come cheap & short-term because of some injuries the past couple of years – yes I know he’s rehabbing an injury that he should have surgery on.
    Levi Brown (RT) Arizona ---- did much better as a right tackle. Has a bum rap because he did so badly at left tackle.
    Kyle Orton (QB) – the perfect candidate for our QB dilemma. This guy can push Sanchez but can be a very quick (realistic) 2nd option when Sanchez stinks it up. This guy should be starting somewhere in this league.
    Braylon Edwards (WR) San Francisco --- Bray doesn’t have many options – his year in SF couldn’t have gone worse. No way he’ll get offered anything long term and expensive. But he showed an uncanny connection with Sanchez.


    1st round Whitney Mercilus / 3-4 OLB / Illinois / 6-4 265
    Mercilus is the pass-rushing OLB we have been talking about drafting for years. Incredible athleticism. Great footwork/agility. Hands are always moving – pushing off blockers, etc. Relentless, nonstop intensity, and unlike Gholston, plays with emotion (i.e. he actually celebrates after he makes a big play). He will make the transition from DE in college to up & down 3-4 OLB in the pros. If Courtney Upshaw, Mercilus and David DeCastro are not there when its our turn at 16, I hope to God we trade down.
    2nd round Kelechi Osemele / G/OT / Iowa State / 6-5 333
    Moved around the line in college. Projects in NFL more like an OT w/his long arms -- very agile on feet despite size. Starter for 43 straight games. Solid in the run game. Co-Captain of his team. Can also play LT (in case something happens to D’Brick). I prefer him as an option instead of Mike Adams/Nate Potter/Levy Adcock/Zebrie Sanders. As much as I love the idea of getting Mercilus with the 1st round pick, I would be thrilled getting this kid in the 2nd round. He had a tough first day at the Senior Bowl practice, but recovered nicely the next day.
    3rd round Keenan Robinson / 3-4 LB / Texas / 6-3 240
    Rumblings are that Bart Scott is gone. I think its foolish – especially considering his salary is guaranteed. They pulled him out on a lot of 3rd downs because he couldn’t cover anyone. Maybe if we had safeties that could cover someone, we could have had Scott full time rushing the passer. Robinson flew under the radar at Texas and would be a steal here – guy benches about 450 and is a sure tackler. Has speed & athleticism to play inside or out. Maybe I should give Mauga more credit, but I also have zero faith in Bellore.
    4th round George Iloka / S / Boise St. / 6-3 222
    We’d be nuts – scratch that,….COMPLETELY NUTS, if we didn’t look to draft a safety. The position is practically empty because its been ignored for years. We must address the Gronkowski issue. Iloka was a 3yr starter and with his size CAN COVER A TIGHT END!!!!! – Boise St even played him at CB for a couple of games.
    5th round Jeff Fuller / WR / Texas A&M / 6-4 217(Dwight Lowery Trade with Jacksonville)
    Currently, Fuller is projected anywhere 4th-5th round. Word is, he’s having a bad Senior Bowl as well. IMO, he’s 3rd round material. Seems like a guy who shows up for the game. The body of work he has over 4 seasons (4!) at Texas A&M has been vastly underestimated (70 catches/2011, 72/2010, 41/2009, 50/2008. Not the fastest guy on the field, but great hands, durable – does need to be more crisp on his route running. Has bloodline w/father played safety for San Fran years ago.
    5th round George Bryan / TE / N.C. State / 6-5 265
    This is a tough pick because I was really hoping to see what Jeff Cumberland could do. Possible he’s never the same player after that torn ACL. Calling Matt Mulligan trash is an insult to garbage everywhere. This bum was given an incredible opportunity to play in the NFL and what did he do? He went offsides in quiet stadiums. Not knowing the count as often as he couldn’t never ever really gets corrected. And when he’s not offsides, he was clearly holding and not getting called for it.
    6th round Winston Guy / S / Kentucky / 6-1 216
    Again --- J. Leonard (free agent) went down w/a leg injury for the 2nd year in a row. B. Poole (free agent) has concussions and E. Smith just had offseason surgery,…not to mention the fact he is just not full time starting material. Practice Squad Tracy Wilson was a hamstring away from starting!!!! This Guy (no pun intended) will be a staple of my draft – I’ll pull the “I told you so” thread in 2/3 years when he is killing it with some other team. Tackling machine over 2 yrs in the SEC (quality college competition) – lucky for us that safety is a position that falls down the board on draft day – but this kid will be well worth it (if he’s here).
    7th round ----- we traded this to Green Bay for Caleb Schlauderoff
     
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  2. CodeGreen

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    Got no problem with this, good variety of possitions covered. Though I would be more inclined to take two tackles or two pass rushers over two safeties.

    Also nothing about Laron Landry is going to be cheap
     
  3. wewantsapp

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    Thanks for the comments.
    I had Mitchell Schwartz (OT) from CAL as my 5th round pick but changed it last minute to George Bryan because I want to castoff Mulligan so badly.
    Landry will be "cheap" in the sense of "cheaper" than Michael Griffin (Tennessee) and Tyvon Branch (THE RAYYYYYY-DERS).
     
  4. dcm1602

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    Landry WILL NOT make over 4 million next year, unless its mostly from hitting performance based bonuses. Hes got tons of problems
     
  5. laxin

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    Jeff Fuller played like a bitch at the Senior Bowl. When I watched him in game film, I really liked him. But he showed absolutely no physicality, speed, hands or agility at the Senior Bowl. It was a piss poor attempt to improve his stock. He showed no tenacity during blocking and got manhandled by CB’s 6 inches shorter on him. I liked him as a 3rd round prospect, now I dont even like him in the 5th.

    I would much rather have Juron Criner, BJ Cunningham, Devier Posey, Gerell Robinson or Marvin Jones in the mid to later rounds.

    And Im not sure why we wouldnt bring back Maybin, he was the closest thing to a passrusher we had last year and showed promise as a role player. Unless we get outbid on the FA market, I dnt see why we wouldnt resign him.

    I like the signings, but Im just not sure if Landry can hold up.

    The draft is real solid. Mercillus is a crapshoot IMO though, he can either be the next passrushing monster or the next bust, which scares the crap out of me.
     
  6. wewantsapp

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    You know as well as I do that its unfair to judge a guy by just 1 game. His stock will surely fall and he should have been better prepared, but this guy can show up in the game.
    Criner's stock is climbing -- he might get in the 2nd round. And I am against using a 2nd round pick on a WR --- we lost that luxury by drafting poorly in 2008-2010.
    BJ Cunningham & Gerell Robinson are options I' m open to.
    Maybin got figured out later in the year and became less effective. Kudos to the guy for resurrecting his career, but IMO he is just too limited in what he can do -- only rush the passer. At most he weighs 230 (with a brick in each pocket).
     
  7. laxin

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    Yeah, I understand we cant judge Fuller on the one game, but his whole week was atrocious. And that may be generous. I mean his mentality was terrible- absolutely no balls. And thats something that cant be taught. Route running can be taught, run blocking can be taught, weight could be put on... But a player’s drive/determination/physicality cant be. I really liked him coming into the game, and thought he would be an awesome 3rd round pick. Now Criner has taken that spot, and I would LOVE to grab Criner if he was there come our 3rd round pick.

    And as for Maybin, I dont see why not to sign him. If we can get him for a cheap/reasonable deal, why not? He showed improvement through out the year, a larger variety of passrush moves and good special team play. If (and I know its a big if) he can add 15 to 20 lbs with our strength and conditioning coaches, he could be a very valuable asset to this team. He was our best passrusher, and if he could add weight and more power, he can add onto this years production.
     
  8. HardHitta

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    Like the draft and the signing are good as well outside of LaRon Landry. I doubt we go after him, I see us going after Tyvon Branch, Reggie Nelson over him.
     
  9. Zach

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    I like the mock overall, with the exception of Maybin release.

    Also, Stay away from Landry. Glass bodies who can't stay healthy are useless in the crunch time. Reggie Smith from SF looks like a competent option instead.

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    I think Jets get 1 more 5th, 1 more 6th and 2 more 7th (Compensation picks)

    If Jets add some bulk at OL/DL/LB and Safety with that four picks, I'm a happy camper.
     
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  10. wewantsapp

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    You lost me w/the compensation picks.
    We get another 5th? - 3 total 5th round picks?
     
  11. Titans

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    I like this Mock I would keep Mayben its hard to find speed rushers and love the Mercilus pick he would be my selection at #16 but Kelechi Osemele is terrible in space and didnt look go at the senior bowl practices no thanks.
     
  12. wewantsapp

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    Osemele did fine Senior Bowl week. He had a tough first day, but that was about it.

    Seems like everyone wants to keep Maybin. I was very conflicted on that one.
     
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    Well most people are assuming that we got a 5th for Lowery (which was a TRADE)

    then its possible we got another 5th as a compensatory for one of our departed FA (brad smith)

    So its definitely possible that we might have 3 5th rounders albeit the compensatory are @ the end of the round
     
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    wewantsapp Well-Known Member

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    This is great great news.
    IMO, this is a pretty deep draft. Certainly comes at the right time because we've been exposed for a lack of depth 2 yrs running.
     
  15. childplease

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    Michael Griffin is a better all around player than Landry
     
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    In 09 he had one of the worst years of his career, in 10' he led the nfl in missed tackles.

    While he can absolutely make plays and is a massive upgrade for our horrific safety pool, lets not pretend hes something that hes not.

    If Landry is healthy hes far better than Griffin will ever be. Problem is he is doubtful to be pretty healthy in the near future imo
     
  17. Martin&theJETS

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    why would we get rid of the teams best pass rusher? That is literally in the top 3, regarding areas this team needs to fix. You simply make it worse by releasing Maybin. He could be signed to a 3 year 7 million dollar contract.
     
  18. wewantsapp

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    dcm beat me to it.
     
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    Clearly, my "At his current weight, Maybin is so 1 dimensional" theory is not going well.
     
  20. JoeWillie130

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    Only thing I wouldn't do is I would keep Maybin and get rid of Folk. There are free agent kickers out there. I would consider bringing Jay Feely back.
     

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