How do you figure...? Im not that high on him and dont really see him upgrading the RB position. He cant get separation from LB’s in passing drills, cant pick up a blitz and his added weight caused him to lose whatever explosiveness he possessed. David Wilson or Doug Martin is where its at.
Cordy Glenn has to be added to the Jet's wish list in Rd 1. What a performance today at Senior Bowl practice!!
Yea Lax....he was incredible. Glenn just earned himself a lot of coin. Sparano would be drooling over a player like Glenn. Let's not lose sight of Mike Adams he was solid again, just not lights out like Glenn.
Glenn is the PERFECT body for Sparano’s new man system. He likes BIG bodied lineman, and Glenn is just that. He’s massive and has vine arms. He would be an awesome RT for this team and the future, I’m not sure if his value is at the mid 1st though... But it could be come april. With Mike Adams, his problem is consistency- he flashes absolute dominance, but then gets burned. If he could sure up his inconsistency problems, he would be awesome. And on a side note, I really would’ve loved to see Mercilus and Nick Perry at the Senior Bowl. I would’ve liked to see what they could do against these lineman. We could compare each of these passrushing prospects side by side but I guess this is the whole difficulty of the draft process.
Ingram has also been drawing rave reviews at the practices, would like him @ 16 if Upshaw is not available.
Gotta be honest,I've watched Adams all week and I'm not thrilled. He has great physical skills but he reminds me a little bit of Levi Brown. In theory, his build, long arms & good feet should make him a very good pass protector. But he really seems to struggle with D-linemen who can use their hands as well as countering the arc. I've been impressed with Kelechi Osemele. He started the week very shaky, but he has gotten better everyday and was really impressive anchoring in drills earlier today. I saw him play a couple times this year and he likely doesn't have the feet for LT. He projects as a RT or a guard. His lack of position may slide him to the 2nd round.
I like what I see from Ingram but he worries me. I don't see above average physical skills other than good hands and quickness. Everything else is based off pass rush moves. These moves look good in isolated drills against college linemen..but NFL linemen are not as easily fooled by moves or quickness. Additionally I'm not sure where he fits in as a run defender. Maybe in an undersized 1 gap scheme like in Tampa or Chicago, but in Rex's scheme you need to be able to set the edge. Rex likes D-linemen and outside LB's with long arms. That is something Ingram just doesn't possess.
Yeah I definitely agree his build is a little off for the position, dude weighs 280 pounds at 6'2 for fucks sake. Having said that, he looks like a beast based on most of the film I've watched. Would still much rather have Upshaw, but Ingram and Mercilus fall into that "would love it if we took them but they scare me" category. To be entirely honest though most OLB's scare me since the Gholston debacle.
I'm all on board with Glenn, he is clearly going to go up the boards now. Wouldnt mind him as a right tackle, though if Martin or Rieff is available Id still stick with them. Its good to know that the big positions of needs for the Jets have good participants in the game.
Sorry to ask again, but what is it that people here hate about Mark Barron, (not supporting the guy as of yet, just curious) Mel Kiper has him at #14 on his big board, but everyone here hates him, I just ask why?
I personally like Barron, and have watched him play in person for 4 years, but here's the thing. It's an incredibly weak safety class, and it just seems like Barron is the best of the worst and not worth a 1st round pick for anyone, really.
That’s the thing. He’s a good safety, but nothing to warrant a 1st round pick. I hate when people mock him to us because it just shows that they simply look at our needs and plug in the highest rated player there, and in this case, that player is Mark Barron. He would be an okay 2nd round pick and a very good 3rd round pick. Some team is going to pick him in the 1st or early 2nd just because he’s the highest rated at the position. I just hope that team isnt us. It would be a waste picking 16th overall and drafting a guy who isnt a 1st round talent.
He's a typical SS, which doesn't warrant a 1st round selection, nor does he solve the Jets Safety troubles. He'll be a starter in the league, but not as a game changing SS. I'd be happy with him being a late 2nd or 3rd round pick, just as long as there is a new FS already in place. Barron/Leonhard or Barron/Smith would be terrible...
Cordy Glenn made himself alot of money this week. I think he'd be a good fit for the Jets.Will he be there? That depends. If teams think he can be a blindside tackle, he'll go top 10(Which I think is a mistake). However, if he gets projected correctly, as a RG/RT, he will be there at #16 and would be PERFECT. The O-line junkie in me is drooling over the prospect of a right side of Glenn and an improved Ducasse.
I don't think he's a bust. You'll get production out of him one way or another as he has off the charts intangibles. The big question is can he be a 3 down player in Rex's scheme? I don't know enough about him as a prospect to know what he's gonna look like in a run plug. I only saw him on 1 run play this week in practice. He went up against Cordy Glenn and got pancaked.
I agree that he's not a good option at #16, but I do think he'd solve the Jets safety problem. He's strong enough to tackle one on one which Rex's scheme demands from a safety, and he's got the hips/recovery speed to handle seam isolation. Jets don't need a game changer at safety.They need somebody with coverage ability who can tackle. Remove an aging Ed Reed and oft injured Troy Polamalu and there isn't a game changing safety anywhere in the NFL.
Starting to agree with you and WW on the Glenn at 16 being a viable option sentiment but if you think the Jets future offensive line has a big role for Ducasse then offensive line play isn't the only thing you're a junkie for.
You're entitled to your opinion..but I believe Ducasse is capable of some special things in the future. I've been wrong before, but the last guy I showed faith in who people wrote off after year 2's first name is D'Brickashaw.
I meant that more towards being selected that high rather than being what the Jets need. There are tons of non elite SS that are starters for teams, but they weren't top 20 picks either. I just don't see him paired with what the Jets have now at Safety being a solution. If he has a capable FS beside or in front of him, then yes. He needs a good accompaniment to succeed. But even that won't completely make up for his tendencies of falling for the play fake, his knack for getting injured, and pursuit speed. He doesn't usually let the top come off the coverage, but when he does, TD opposition. But that again is a typical SS...
