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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    First of all the comparison to Eli has not at all been about Eli today. It has been a comparison started by Sanchez Fans limited to a stat line analysis of Eli's third season compared to Mark's. This ridiculous and selective argument presented on a number of threads by Sanchez Fans has been what I have been attacking.

    In that connection I made the point that Eli had LESS CONTINUITY in receivers going from his second to third years than Mark did. This addresses the flimsy excuse offered on a number of threads by Sanchez Fans, not supported by the facts, that Mark had less continuity than most Qb's do going from his second to third years. Well, if the argument is taht Eli's third year was supposedly comparable to Mark's, then it is relevant to point out that in fact Eli had less continuity than Mark did in his receivers. In other words I was not arguing, and no one else was for that matter, that the issue was continuity for Mark comparing the move from his first year to his second on one hand with his move from his second to third. That has not been the issue, and is not an argument I have previously made.

    Having said that your post ignores that Edwards was not Sanchez's main receiver in terms of catches in 2010, as that was Keller, and that Holmes was only one catch behind Edwards despite having missed the first four games of 2010. After his suspension was over, Holmes actually had more catches per game than Edwards, and by the end of the season was more Mark's go to receiver than Edwards was.

    Your analysis of 2010 also leaves out the Cotch was injured in 2010 and was less of a factor in the passing game. Cotch in fact was the leading receiver in 2009, but dropped to fifth in 2010.

    More to the point on continuity, sometimes "continuity" is a bad thing as after Washington went down in 2009, Mark had no solid and consistent receiver out of the backfield, which was remedied when LT came in 2010, and quickly became a solid receiver, ending up in the top four with 52, one behind Edwards.

    But in any event this is all beside the point, because you misread my posts. The subject is comparing the situations Eli and Mark had in their respective third years.
     
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    Does anyone here know how to quote someone properly? LOL!!! [​IMG]
     
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    Sanchez did not have more continuity in 2011 than he did in 2010. Arguing otherwise is a joke.
     
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    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    There are probably 3 or 4 threads, if not more, about Sanchez but if anybody thinks for a second that the Jets won't bring in Manning if they have that chance then they are are just flat wrong.
     
  7. Braylon4ever

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    Exactly.

    I'm reading Blocker's post and I'm puzzled as to what he's talking about?


    When you miss a BIG TARGET the likes of Braylon, who did more than just be a Big Receiver for Sanchez to throw to, it affects the entire dynamic of the offense as we saw this past season.

    Does anyone think Holmes would be double-teamed on every pass-play if Braylon(and not Plax) was running down the opposite side?
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    You didn't even read my post, either that or you have serious reading comprehension problems. You have totally misunderstood the argument.
     
  9. Big Blocker

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    Not you, too.

    I said QUITE CLEARLY that the discussion concerned a comparison of the respective third years of Eli and Mark. And that Eli had less continuity with his receivers going from year two to year three than Mark did. This point referred back to a nonsense defense by Sanchez Fans of Sanchez claiming that his continuity in his third year with his receivers was atypical.

    It should be obvious that it is harder to compare Eli's third year to Mark's and at the same time defend Mark if in fact Eli had less continuity than Mark with his receivers. In other words, you can't both defend Mark on the basis of lack of continuity and say that Mark's season should be seen as equivalent when Eli had demonstrably less continuity.

    It is instead just another example of the selective use of stats by Sanchez Fans.

    And of course you have your Braylon Agenda here. We all get that. But Edwards is not the only thing of importance in the whole world, either.
     
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  11. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Your post was long, boring and not even remotely close to the point. You spent 47 paragraphs arguing about something I clearly overlooked instead of addressing the actual point. Then you went on a spin routine regarding the issue that was equally boring. I apologize for overlooking that you were comparing year 3 eli to year 3 sanchez. That was a side point I made at the very end.

    You said:
    You were wrong.

    I look forward to the 6 pages of crap you're about to respond with.
     
  12. sg3

    sg3 Banned

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    lets just keep it simple


    Mark Sanchez' first three years in the NFL was a million miles better than Eli Manning's first three years in the NFL
     
  13. Big Blocker

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  14. sg3

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    I'm confused??

    You are taking your OWN post as a white flag about something???
     
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    Eli is an elite NFL QB.

    Sanchez will never become one.

    It is silly to even compare the two.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Eli is NOT an elite QB but I agree Sanchez will never be elite. You don't need to be elite to win a SB though.
     
  18. Funkee Beatz

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    You reek of douche.
     
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  19. PatsFanTX

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    Brady
    Rodgers
    Brees
    Big Ben
    Eli

    If you don't think a top 5 QB is elite, you're not paying attention.
     
  20. sg3

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    please shut up, log off, go sit in your room or even better


    go to patsfags.com where everyone will think you are smart
     

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