He was the 29th pick in the first round, lets not act like he was drafted top 15 and presumed to be a superstar corner. As for Polian, I think he's probably going to retire since hes like 80 years old and if we did get a new GM I would assume Rex is gone as well since 90% of new GM's want their own HC in place, I think these guys deserve at least another season to clean up their mess before we throw them to the wolves.
In today's NFL you do. Absolutely. Three good corners are essential. And don't tell me Wilson is a bust, he ain't.
impossible to stop the gloom and doomer, sky is falling fans at this time. They haven't had such a glorious time (for them) to wallow in misery for almost three seasons. This is their time, until the draft, I'm guessing
I agree. Christ, Champ Bailey can look like complete garbage for stretches in today's pass happy NFL. Wilson hasn't looked like a future All-Pro, but he's shown enough to convince me he'll be a legit NFL corner.
So they drafted him to be the #2 the same offseason they traded for Cromartie? Rex specifically stated after Wilson was drafted that he was penciled in as our starting nickel. Maybe in your typical defense you don't draft a nickel in the first round, but with Rex's (over)emphasis on DBs, that's certainly the idea they had in mind.
What I don't agree with is the premise that Wilson was drafted just to play nickel. He improved by a huge margin from his rookie to his second year and if he weren't playing behind Revis Christ and Cro I don't doubt he'd be one of our 2 starting CBs. I don't think he's turned out to be a middling pick, I think he's playing really well for a 2nd year guy and our CBs are our strongest unit on either side of the ball. If you're talking about questionable picks by Tanny, Wilson isn't a good example.
One .500 season and we're getting threads about replacing our GM. Tanny built a winner here, no way I want to see him replaced.
How long did you take yoga to be able to bend over backwards that much? Do you think Wilson was picked to play the nickel back, or was he supposed to start? Can you name one example ever of a team using a first round pick with the express purpose of filling their nickel back slot?
Right on the money. Polian WAS a great GM, but he's closer to retirement than to creating another good franchise. Besides if you hire him, you'd probably have to hire his kid too.
Cro came with only one year on his contract. Of course Wilson was supposed to play nickel at first. He was a rookie. But if the intent was that he was to play nickel for some time after that, Ryan never said that, and in the end the Jets had to spend too much money to get Cro under a new contract. Why? Because Wilson did not play up to expectations.
Locker room seems to be a total mess right now. However, hasn't their overall success earned Rex & Tanny at least one season to fix their own mess?
The common wisdom is that there are usually about 5-7 "special" non-QB, players in the draft and for the most part they go in the top10. These are guys who become immediate starters and have an impact on the team. Very few of these guys are busts After that the next 35-40 guys are all about in the same level. Some will start, most will at least be in positional rotations. Obviously more misses in this group. The point is that while some of you aren't satisfied with Wilson's play, none can say it hasn't shown vast improvement over his rookie year. He's on the field for a majority of the defensive snaps and a key contributor to a top 10 defense. Personally I think he's playing right where you'd expect for where he was drafted. Next year will give you a better idea of what he's likely to be over the long haul.
That sounds like a stretch to me. If they didn't bring back Cro and Wilson started as our #2 who's in the 3rd spot? It's no secret that Rex loves his CBs so it shouldn't be a surprise that we have 3 very good ones. I don't buy the idea that resigning Cro is somehow an indictment of Wilson's abilities.
I do. Look, if Wilson had played well enough to start in his second year, they wouldn't have had to bring Cro back and spend all the money it took. They could have filled the nickel back with a cheaper player. I also disagree that Wilson looked all that great in his second season. He was after all the one who was guarding Cruz on that huge play by the Giants, and missed several tackles toward the end. Maybe he was tiring toward the end of the season, but he did not play well. And he pretty much was mediocre or worse his first season, so seeing improvement was not such a big deal.
Bringing in Cromartie and Wilson was direct response to the 09 AFCCG. I don't understand how you don't understand the logic behind that move. Who gives a fuck if he's playing nickel? The league is pass-happy as hell, three good corners are ESSENTIAL. Even more so when you run so much man coverage like the Jets do. I can't give you any examples of 1st round corners starting their career at nickel, but I'm sure not many 1st round corners have Revis and Cromartie-calibre CBs already on the depth chart. The drafting of K Wilson was a direct response to the 09 AFC title game, and we saw what difference that made the next year when the Jets eliminated Indy in their own barn.
It's a tough call. GM's and coaches are just like players in one regard, which is that it's better to let them go a year early than a year late. See Bill Cowher and the Steelers as one example, although that may have been management realizing that one Super Bowl win in 15 years was not all that impressive from the standpoint of the Steeler's expectations. My gut tells me that if Rex and Tanny are going to try new approaches this coming off-season that it's probably worthwhile to give them another year, but if the answer is going to be trying to make a splash with high-priced free agents and trade-ups in the draft it probably is not.
Bill Polian is one of the brightest front office minds in all of sports. With that said, he has already moved beyond being a GM and is now more of a president/head personnel type. I like Tannenbaum. He's done a good job of building a competitive roster from a year to year basis. He's also done a great job of reeling in the prime free agents to come to this franchise that many other Jet regime's have failed at. He has some things he needs to work on. He needs to put a little more value on team chemistry and continuity. But his drafts are alot better than he's gotten credit for and he's been a big part of putting this franchise on a national stage.
its a sorry state of affairs when you are reading posts from Pats fans and they are more rational and reasonable than the majority of the Jets fans posts
