Granted, there are things that go on with employees that bosses don't know about- that's natural. But the magnitude of the action is important and you have to keep it in perspective. If I had an employee that decided to go home in the middle of the day because they didn't get the proper praise, and my head manager (for lack of a better term) didn't know about it at some point, that's not good. He needs to have the chain of command in place. And, at the point where the employees are running around insulting each other and pointing fingers, ti's already past any point of respect for the boss. And that's where I believe we are with Rex. My feeling that he should go is not based in any way whatsoever on his team's results this year. It is 100% based on the his handling of the team - most of which was before we even knew about it. The boss has to be involved to some degree in all aspects of his business, even if it's just through his supervisors. He's not going to know everything, but if there's something wrong with the troops that is a morale issue of that magnitude, he's gotta step in and set stuff straight.
I agree, he definitely needs to come in, and handle this. But what happened isn't an employee just leaving his shift in the middle of the day and the manager not knowing. It's more like, in my opinion, two employees who don't get along and have problems with each other, finally snap one day and start getting into an all out brawl. You don't fire the manager, at least I wouldn't -- you set the employees straight or fire them. You can't have that in a business, but in my mind it's not necessarily entirely the managers fault for not knowing they'd snap like that. Maybe you knew they didn't like each other but, they're coworkers, that doesn't matter, as long as you do your job and act professional and don't disrupt the workplace as it affects "business". This is why I'm not against getting rid of Holmes, because if the guy seems like a cancer in this locker room. I get rid of him before I get rid of Rex, especially since Sanchez is trying to work things out...supposedly. You especially don't air it out in public in this manner. Now is the time that we're going to see how Rex Ryan is going to "handle" his employees who stepped out of line. Like I said, I don't fault anyone for putting him under scrutiny and criticism, but I also don't think you fire the manager/Rex out right, especially when he has a good track record.
I was referring specifically to the Holmes scenario in week 17 where Holmes was out and Rex claimed not to even know. Agreed that you don't fire the managers for the poor employee performance in all cases, but if you're an owner and your top supervisor has all this going on, that's a reflection on him all the way. You pay him to hire and manage the staff. Ok, we've just about beat this subject to death now! He's not going anywhere and will have the chance to turn it around - let's hope he can!
Buds a Beer! I never claimed to know everything. I can blame who ever I deem accountable for the curent state of My New york Jets. America is funny that way!
My only beef on Rex is the degree of loyalty he showed Brian. Otherwise , we are lucky to have Rex as our HC. He changed our culture.
Did you see this article with Tomlinson? I would say it can/has got worse in Rex's football world the comments about rex and tanny and so on would tend to suggest he isnt coming back next year.
Rex needs to do a better job at being a HC, c'mon man you dont know how bad things are on your own team? If he does not get involved with the offense next year and we have this same scenario, I believe Rex will be gone. I don't want to see him fired but it seems few defensive coordinators can make the transition to successful HC, hopefully our next HC will be a previous Offensive minded coach.
Champ, you're being hypocritical now. You, of all people, would be the first one to say that the Jets haven't won a Super Bowl since SBIII. All I was trying to point out was that the Ravens haven't won it with Harbaugh either. Just as you always use as your crutch, nothing else matters. So, I stand by that. Who cares whether they passed up on Rex or not? Are the Jets the only team that makes mistakes? Are you putting the Ravens on a pedestal? It doesn't matter. The point is, that at this point in time Rex Ryan has as many Super Bowl rings as a head coach as Jim Harbaugh. That could change on February 5th (which I doubt, especially with the Ravens going through their own mini-drama right now), but as of right now, they're tied. So laud Harbaugh all you want, but using your typical argument, he's as good a head coach as Rex Ryan, if not worse if he doesn't win it this year because he'd be 0-4 in bringing a Super Bowl to Baltimore, whereas Rex would only be 0-3. Of course that theory blows up if the Ravens do win it this year. Do I believe this nonsense? Of course not. I think both Rex and Harbaugh are very good coaches. I would prefer Harbaugh, but not by much. The Ravens made the right decision. I happen to think the Jets did too.
U R so far off base it is not funny. All I am saying is that RR WAS REJRCTED by Baltimore & that is a fact that cannot be denied. Somebody else pointed out that RR was also rejected by 2 other team besides the Ravens. Yes just like RR Harbaugh has won nothing to date. Actually the reason I bring up that RR was rejected by Balt is because he was employed by that team for some years so they would know his + & -s better then anyone which means they decided that he was not HC material. For Woody he was perfect because he could be his shill to sell PSLs :sad:
Do you know that he was also a failed head coach of a snake-bitten franchise before he became Football Yoda?
Every single coach in the NFL would do the same, unless they have Brees, Rodgers, Eli manning, or Brady. The rest just aren't in the same class. I still don't think this will happen, because I don't see how we can afford this without cutting A LOT of important players and redoing the entire team.
I believe he's referring to Cleveland, not the Jets. He couldn't fail with the Jets since he never actually did anything as the coach.
He failed miserably with the Browns, 36-44 overall record and only made the playoffs 1 year out of 5 seasons.
Ha, so your first sentence has no purpose. I'm not off base at all is what you're saying. I never said the Ravens didn't reject him. I'm just pointing out how if you're going to be on this message board and spout the same crap time after time about how long it's been since the Jets have won a Super Bowl, and how Rex has never won a Super Bowl, then I expect you to do the same for Harbaugh. Has he won a Super Bowl? No. Has Rex as a head coach? No. All I'm saying is that in my years on this board, you've had one argument. Stick with it. You're praising Harbaugh but not Rex. But by your typical argument, you should be praising neither. Just be consistent is all I'm saying. If Rex sucks, so does Harbaugh. So does every coach until they win the Super Bowl.
