Yeah, this is going to be weird and a bit uncharacteristic of myself but I have this strange STRANGE feeling that when we pick at #16 Courtney Upshaw wont be there, Whitney Mercilus wont be there, Jonathan Martin wont be there, Michael Floyd wont be there, Alshon Jeffery wont be there, but Trent Richardson will be there. There is about a 75% chance that he will not land near our pick but something keeps telling me that its a big time possibility. With the value of RBs dropping and dropping as of late many teams are a bit skeptical of drafting one so high. Now this isnt a big need at all, we have much bigger needs, but with Rex and Sparano on board they could never pass up a great RB combo. This is most likely the only way we could get Richardson if the draft ended up something like this, but as you look at it, its really not that far fetched: 1)Indianapolis- Andrew Luck 2)St. Louis- Matt Kalil 3) Minnesota- Justin Blackmon 4) Cleveland- RG3 (He could go here but QB is more important than RB) 5) Tampa Bay- Mo Claiborne 6) Washington- Alshon Jeffery (I have this feeling that Shanahan wants Helu to be the feature back and they NEED a #1 WR) 7) Jacksonville- Michael Floyd 8) Miami- Jonathan Martin (Maybe goes here but they like Bush and Thomas and need a RT) 9) Carolina- Quinton Coples 10) Buffalo- Courtney Upshaw 11) Kansas City- David DeCastro 12) Seattle- Luke Kuechly (Possibly here but they need to improve on D and Lynch is 25 and doing well there) 13) Arizona- Whitney Mercilus 14) Dallas- Dre Kirkpatrick 15) Philadelphia- Vontaze Burfict/Zach Brown 16) New York Jets- Trent Richardson Honestly just some food for thought. I could actually see one thing getting in the way of this little scenario and that would be the Bengals using their two firsts to get him. Now IMO theyd be better off (in this scenario draft) getting Reiff and a CB but who knows what theyd do. They arent exactly known for big time trades but you never know, a trifecta of Dalton, Green, and Richardson would be incredible. I know you all might think I am crazy, but I could really see this scenario breaking down draft day.
Its possible that he could drop. If he does I think you draft him without much hesitation. I really see some team before us if not long before us taking him, but at 16 you sprint up to the podium and hand in the pick unless your offered a kings ransom to trade down by a needy team.
Thats another huge thing, what if someone does offer us a bunch of draft picks? What if a team like the Bengals asks us to trade spots with them at 16 and throw in a 3rd or late second to secure Richardson? What would the Jets do. Id rather take Richardson but a kings ransom is tempting.
I wont disagree at all; this could happen and if it does, its a no brainer. The thing working in our favor in this draft is that many teams have capable RB’s and have bigger needs with a very very good player available. If we got Richardson, I would be pretty ecstatic. Only thing that would kill me is another year without a top flight passrushing prospect (it is possible Vinny Curry is there in the 2nd or possibly someone else). A combo of Richardson and Greene/Mcknight would allow us to once again be a top 5 rushing team which is Sanchez’s best friend. He has amazing speed/power combo that this team lacks. Some may say this is wishful, but when you break it down as you have, it is possible... we have seen crazier things happen come draft day.
I think we could still get a pass rusher especially since teams that would need one ahead of us would of already taken one (Cards and Bills). I think you could expect the likes of Bruce Irvin, Curry, Cam Johnson, and Lindsey to still be their at 47. Which in that case wouldnt be so bad. And agreed, Like I said a trio of Richardson, Green, and Mcknight would bring our top running style back. Richardson getting 20+ touches per game and Greene getting 15+ to beat up on the 2nd half D, like his role should be. I think that would be dynamic. Add a FA WR who could block like Braylon or Colston , get a stop gap RT like Mckenzie and stop gap safety like Tanard Jackson or Reggie Nelson, and this team is back on track.
Those that you named would probably be there, but aside from Curry, Im not really that impressed as to what they could do on this defense. I liked Bruce Irvin coming into this year, but he is just a one trick pony, is small for a 3-4 OLB and can get over powered by tackles (sort of reminds me of Maybin), Cam Johnson has an ideal frame but didnt seem like someone that would solve our problems and Linsey might be a reach in the 2nd (actually so might Johnson and Irvin). Vinny Curry seems promising, but Im not sure how much of his success was determined by competition... If we nabbed Richardson in the 1st and Perry or Ingram managed to be there late in the 1st, I wouldnt mind them trading up (especially for Perry). I know most arent for trading up, and I usually am too, but in this scenario I think it would benefit us because aside from Mercilus, Upshaw, Perry and maybe Ingram, our passrusher might be a hole once again unless we strike gold...
Irvin is about 6'3 250 , hes not small for a 3-4 OLB, maybe about 10 pounds from Idle but he has a good combination of strength and speed. Curry wouldnt come to fruition until 2013 IMO. I think he has to adjust to the NFL level but he has the capability to get some sacks his rookie year. But he wont be a Brooks Reed or Aldon Smith. I think Ingram has the possibility to be at 47. We wont and shouldnt trade back up. Its not an insult to his game but I just think there are better players. Guys like Upshaw, Mercilus, Perry, and Hightower will be drafted ahead of him and the teams who most likely take those guys are teams that will pick ahead of our 1st and 2nd. If we could role out a draft with Richardson, Ingram, and get a RT prospect or WR prospect Id be ecstatic. And its really not out of the realm of possibility.
I was remembering Irvin’s weight from last year being around 235, but he bulked up to 245 this year. Last year he was very impressive, but he dropped off this year...possible red flag? I would absolutely love Richardson, but as of right now I guess I’m just so set on this team needing to take an OLB in the 1st (Upshaw, Merciless and even Perry depending on if he shoots up draft boards come the combine) that I may have tunnel vision and am sour to the other options outside of these 1st rounders.
I would be ecstatic at a first 3 rounds of Richardson, Curry, and possibly Bruce Irvin, I want as many pass rushers as possible, I see Irvin as a pass rush specialist who get's 5-8 sacks a year
Aaron Maybe says hello. If we get a pass rusher early in the draft, we don't need to take another one until late in the draft. I really don't see the point of drafting a guy you see as your starting OLB early in the draft, and then drafting a pass rushing specialist in the middle rounds when you already have Maybin and Westerman who specialize in pass rushing. Not too mention, Calvin Pace is not finished yet. He is close, but not finished yet. BT is done though.
Lots of people think Richardson will fall to the middle of the first round just because RBs don't "usually" go much higher. Personally I think somebody will move to get him before that happens..probably the Pats.
Id throw Reiff into that top fifteen. Simply put if Trent Richardson is available, you have to take him. With that said he is going to light up the combine which will most likely make him a top 10 pick. Its possible that because the running back position is not what it once was he may slide, but Richardson is the best running back prospect since AP
Hey if Riley Rieff is there, I would think long and hard about taking him, but if Richardson is there he is the pick, unless hell freezes over and RG3 is there or Matt Kalil
I really doubt Ingram makes it out of the first round. I think after the combine, he will shoot up to mid to late round first round. I think the kid is going to be a very incredible player, I'm really liking a lot of the things I see from him. We'll see.
I agree with this. There is NO way at all that Belichick would let the Jets take Richardson if he is looking like he will be on the board when the Jets pick. I think the Pats would trade up to draft him just so the Jets cannot draft him. Keep in mind that they have two firsts and two seconds this year, and they always are making a lot of trades on draft day. I also would not rule out the Jets trading up for someone though. The Jets are one of the most active teams on draft day.
That kind over reactionary move is exactly waht the Pats would not do. Despite their continued success they need help and depth in a lot of areas. I woukld not expect them to go trading multiple picks to keep the Jets from any player let alone a running back of all positions.
