U mean they have a plan? It has been 43 years now & the NYJs are as far away as they were on 01/13/69 from a "plan" From being a fan of theres since 1965 I have never seen them have a plan once Leon kicked Wberlin out the door for good :sad:
Im probably one of the few jets fans that dont hate the giants. It's just that for the giants to be doing all this during this particular season, it's what making it so annoying for me.
Agreed with your last sentence. If it was any year, I couldn't care less, but since its this year, all I'm hearing is my Giants fans boasting about how great their team is and how we suck. Granted, we deserve it, but I just wish it wasn't this year. I honestly don't mind the Giants themselves, I just despise their fans. Also, I never really liked Eli until this year cause I thought he was overrated, and didn't have the numbers to be called 'elite.'
Umm...you do realize you are talking about pride and bragging rights to the City, right? Of course the success of each team has an impact on the other at an ownership level. Those thin-skinned billionaires get angry too.
Giants are the luckiest team in the league. i never seen a franchise get more props on basically 2 hail mary plays over the course of 5 years. The tyree catch and that play yesterday. ridiculous to see a basically mediocre 8-8 team propelled to the spotlight
I have absolutely never had any problem with the Giants. Their fans are the ones who make me not want them to do well..
I se people talking about how "if we had" Colston,Cruz etc etc,things would be different. This IMO is the problem. We put a lot in Holmes stock thinking he was the guy. We got rid of Edwards,Cotch Ellis,Smith. Just because some reciever worked well,or some qb worked well in some other system,doesnt mean it will translate here or anywhere else. I am so sick of not building a team. Always getting rid of pieces of the puzzle and focusing on one big signing. We will never win like that. Just my opinion.
Sorry but this is a dumb topic, what the Giants do have no bearing on the Jets at all, not in the least. We're chasing one Super Bowl and a little respect not to try and topple the Giants, that's lame shit Mets fans and Red Sox fans obsess about. And if you tell me we're now Mets fans I will lose it.
Not a dumb topic You are very naive if you think what the Giants do has no bearing on the Jets and vice-versa There are too many Giants fans throwing digs at the Jets for anyone to believe that both teams operate independent of each other
they should operate independent of eachother, it scares me to think that it just might be possible that the jets organization will react to what this topic is about. its usually just fan bullshit blah blah like the guy above said, however there is a possibility that this will make our organization do something they probably shouldnt. and that scares the fuck out of me.
alleycat nails it first of all, this isn't baseball where the Jets can go out and spend 5 billion dollars a year and buy superstars to fill every position. So what they can do is what they try and do every year, build through the draft and free agency and live within the salary cap like other 31 NFL teams The Giants didn't do any special panic things the last two seasons when they missed the postseason and the Jets went to the Conference Championship game. The Jets will stay the course this offseason just as the Giants did those years. And just for the record, IF the Giants LOSE in San Francisco this weekend, all they will have done is matched what the Jets did in 2009 and in 2010 while the Midgets sat at home watching the postseason on television
Different GM, different ownership and different sense of urgency because the Jets haven't won a Super Bowl in 40+ years while the Giants have three in the last 25 (perhaps four coming up)...the Giants can afford to be patient more than the Jets, especially since the Giants actually know how to draft after the first round. Plus Tanny's a natural gambler and Woody wants star power, while Reese and Mara are more patient by nature anyway.
The Maras understand how you compete in the NFL. You stay strong in the trenches, make the best effort to get a good QB and support him with a good running game and put a lot of your resources into pressuring the opposing QB's. This has been the Giants formula for success for a long time now. The periods in which they compete for a Super Bowl are the ones where they have all 3 elements in play. Woody Johnson has been in the business for a decade now. He can't possibly have the generational knowledge of how to win in the NFL that the Maras have accumulated over the years. They've owned the franchise since 1925.
I've been a Jets fan for most of my life. I've never rooted against the Giants, because for me it's always been about having New York in front of the name. I understand those Jets fans who had to endure taunts from Giants fans,who hate the co-tenants of Met Life Stadium. But I've never been exposed to that. All my friends rooted for both teams.
On this general topic, I start out acknowledging that Giant fandom includes a large percentage of the assholes who live in the NYC metro area. But they don't even play in the Jets' conference, let alone division. Who cares what they do or don't do? Unfortunately I think Woody does. I think he has an inferiority complex. He knows he bought the Jets with his trust fund money, while the Maras built the team over the course of decades, and are fixtures in the league. I thought the West Side Stadium was a bad idea, and that the old Meadowlands stadium, for its lack of creature comforts, was not a bad place to watch football. The new stadium is no longer officially called Giants Stadium and seems a much better solution than the WSS, but there remains something creepy about sharing the stadium with another team. I think Woody feels this, too, but for him, given his own insecurities, I think he feels he has to take the Giants into account, when such an attitude is not the best way to approach dealing with the Jets. The Jets have New England and Tom Brady in their division. Ryan has not even been able to outplay Miami since he got here. Perennial conference foes like Baltimore, Pitt and those West Coast road games are other things that are real worries for the Jets. It remains to be seen whether the Jets can win an SB with Woody as the owner. I hate to say that, but there have certainly been some questionable moves by him that did not pay off, and harmed the franchise. I concede there's nothing necessarily about him that would absolutely prevent the team he owns from winning it all. But let's put it this way - he's not your optimal owner.
I said it before, I will again..too bad Steinbrenner wasn't alive and owner of the Jets..he would have never allowed this to happen..he would fire everybody every year until he got it right but he WOULD get it right and it wouldn't take 43+ years to do so. Unfortunately we get the owners that talk big and then keep Tannenbaum in place.
