Thoughts on Brady's 3rd Down Punt?

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  1. mute

    mute Well-Known Member

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    as stated already, I thought it was laughable :lol:. The reason said by Simms is that B.B doesnt want to get his QB hurt so he just directed Brady to punt. IF thats the case, he would be better off just taking him out the game. Seriously it doesnt make sense.

    What if one of the Denver players ran up the middle free and clocked Brady and his weak ass legs?:eek:hmy:

    Punting on 3rd down was like putting more salt on Denver. Sh!t must of felt extra salty for the Denver players, which I think was the reason for that mini throw down from Denver after that silly 3rd down punt.

    You dont get cute like that in a blowout PLAYOFF game. Fewer and fewer teams are liking the Pats and next time someone does a back flip or take a cheap shot at Brady to send a message to B.B, dont complain PATS dick riders.:beer:
     
  2. CJLang

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    The Pats only threw it to move the chains and only scored a TD on their first possession of the 2nd half. They COULD have scored alot more.

    I find it funny that Jets fans are all upset about this, yet brady was joking with a Bronco at the end of the play, and the Broncos clearly had no problem with it.
     
  3. InChadWeTrust

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    This is completely irrelevant to the thread, but do any of you folks know what the symbol/image is at the Patriots middle field? That silver and yellow image?
     
  4. deathstar

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    You paid to stop the opposing team for 60 minutes.

    Don't have a problem showing off or whatever...
     
  5. Patsfan83

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    Ask the Giants when Vick ripped them apart last year in that ridiculous comeback in the 4th quarter.

    This game was pretty one sided. But every game is a couple fumbles or INTs from becoming a game regardless of who is playing.
     
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    Not true, the ref blows the whistle dead agar the balls comes to a rest for a few seconds and the return team isn't near the ball. This only happens about 5 times a game. But you keep drinking the BB is smarter than everyone else in the NFL kool aid. If the broncos touched it it would have been a live ball.:pats_suck::lol:
     
  7. colleen74

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    I always try to put myself in the mindset of "What would I think of it if the Jets did it" ...even then I would think it was dumb and weird.
     
  8. displacedfan

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    I didn't have a problem with, it was just a strange move. I don't see any valid explanation behind the move, and I agree if Rex did the move it would be blasted and tons of Jets fans would flood the board to cut Sanchez since he couldn't pin a team inside their own 5.

    Just read the explanation about the clock running, but the Refs always call a punt dead once the ball stops moving. So I think it was "f u" move, but you are allowed to do that up 30+ as long as you don't complain if a team does it to you.
     
  9. 3xNFLChampion

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    THIS, as posted b4 Brady did it to the fins 03. Haters would be howling if he passed for a 1st too.
    BB had Flutie drop kick a FG once too. I love this old school stuff.

    I thought I saw a handshake between Brady & Tebow?

    Broncos crushed the Pats in 96 in Foxboro while Shannon Sharpe on the camera did his "send the national guard" act. That was classy. It's all good.
     
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  10. displacedfan

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    That's really interesting. I only started seeing the Pats a lot once I came up to Boston because usually their the only game on at 1/4 due to tv resrtictions. I know Bill is one crazy guy. No idea what is going on in his head haha.


    Fair enough then, although I would guess nobody from that game was playing in this game. I think most nfl fans don't have a problem with running up the score, just certain players complaining on your team if it happens to them.

    Ex: Deion Branch waving the terrible towel but complaining when the Jets flew like Jets even though him and teammates did that celebration in the 45-3. I would be pissed off if the Jets ever complaining of other teams trash talking because they do it themselves so it is all fair game.
     
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    It's not that I'm offended by it, or even want to use a strong word like classless to describe it, but it did seem like an insult. Unless I'm missing its actual value (the clock would not have kept running since it becomes a dead ball), I can't find any good reason to give the ball up on 3rd down. It screams charity, and no losing team would want that. I wasn't surprised a bit that some Broncos were pissed.

    I think a Pats fan mentioned that they wanted to keep their opponents off guard. Okay, but it seems wasted in a blowout as opposed to, for example, its original debut. When Brady punted it against Miami in 03, I thought it was a brilliant play, especially since it immediately lead to a defensive TD in a very low scoring game. It was especially smart since it was 4th down and they were in that shaky territory where it's a long FG attempt or go for it on 4th down.
     
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    I think they did it to show it to other teams left. If this had been a closer game that could have been a huge play, you are in a poor situation offensively, and instead of running once then punting to a return man the quick kick almost guarantees pinning them deep. I think they pulled it out as a why the hell not move, and to give their future opponents one more thing to have to look out for.
     
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    If the Ravens end up playing the Pats, I personally would not want to surprise kick the ball with Ed Reed back there. When he gets the ball in his hands, it is scary how well he can see the field and cut back so good
     
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    I think they should have gone for the record and I am surprised that they didn't.
     
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    I was wrong
     
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    It's a bridge.
     
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    I'm surprised by the apparent confusion about how the play is ruled - it's a punt, just like any other punt. The down and the person who kicks it change nothing. As was said earlier, it happens about 5 times a game that a punt is not touched by the receiving team, and anyone who has ever seen a game knows that the clock does not just keep running indefinitely. Once the ball stops moving with no one from the receiving team nearby the play is blown dead.

    I have no idea why Belichick called it, but I certainly don't believe the nonsense he said at his press conference that he wanted to avoid the Broncos' punt return rush - New England's punter averaged 46.5 yards per punt this season and didn't get a single one blocked. I also don't see the supposed advantage in making teams think about this possibility. No team on defense is ever going to worry about a quick-kick punt on 3rd and 10, so as long as they don't do something stupid by trying to pick up the ball this is a play that requires no thought on defense. If anything, the Patriots have lost the element of surprise by reminding teams not to touch the ball if the play is made. It all seems pretty pointless to me, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he called it for no reason other than to generate "ooh he's a genius" BS from the media.
     
  18. strngplyr

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    By punting on 3rd down you completely catch the opponent off guard and there is no punt return. Kick and punt returns are two of the most dangerous plays in the sport. New England pinned Denver on their own 5 (was 10, penalty made it 5) with out any risk to their own players outside of Von Miller starting the scuffle.

    As for not bringing in backups? Tiquan Underwood, Matthew Slater, and Julian Edelman were the receivers, Marcus Cannon and Ryan Wendell were playing on the OL, and Ridley was in the backfield.

    So, you think that New England would have been classier by putting up 60+ points instead of allowing Denver to end the game on their own terms?
     
  19. strngplyr

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    The point is that no team WILL see it coming, its a free play to pin the opponent deep in their own territory with no chance of returning it and facing no potential injury during punt coverage. It's not worrying about getting it blocked, its preventing a Johnny Knox type injury tackling the returner, pretty important when the game has been over since the 2nd quarter.
     
  20. strngplyr

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    You don't kick it if Ed Reed is the deep safety, you also kick a line drive kick for less hang time so noone has time to get back there. It is purely based on the situation at hand, if you don't like what you see you can call a time out, throw it away, or run a real play and then do a real punt or FG on 4th down.

    Edit: It's also only the 3rd time New England has done this since 2000, I believe. Brady did it in 03, Cassel in 08, and Brady again last week. It's not like they use the play once a game.
     

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