If this is true... (Some Jets Players Resent Sanchez)

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  1. jetiron

    jetiron New Member

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    Cromartie already said that only one side of the team showed up in the last game. So it could be him. It doesn't really matter who are the sources, they are just saying what is fairly obvious observation of Sanchez horrific play.
     
  2. displacedfan

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    He did go to the media about the O line issues earlier in the season. I should have clarified.
     
  3. AarontheJet

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    If he's as selfish as everyone would have us believe, I don't think he'd hide behind the cloak of anonymity.
     
  4. Braylon4ever

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    I'm looking at this whole thing as kind of ironic 'cause this article made McElroy come out smelling like Roses, despite the stupid thing he did.
     
  5. Braylon4ever

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    Because it makes too much damn sense for it not to be him.

    Yeah Cro did have his two cents in and maybe he also is pissed but the MAIN CULPRIT is Holmes. He's the ringleader...
     
  6. Ben Had

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    Did anyone ever think....it might have been one of cro's baby's?
     
  7. Organized Chaos

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    I broke these up by the subject. There are at least two different members of the Jets organization that talked Sanchez for this article. At least one is analytical, and a bit more of a "big picture guy" while the others just followed the theme of "Sanchez Sucks" and he's got to go.

    Sanchez:

    (Not as Negative)

    “So many games, he looked defeated before he ever took the field,” a team source said. “He didn’t have much confidence in what he was about to go do. You could tell throughout the week in practice. He never felt comfortable with some of the things we were doing. It was too much for him.”

    “At one point, he was looking at the (pass) rush and wasn’t seeing the receivers,” a team source said. “I think that’s a lack of confidence in what we’re doing. I think that's a lack of confidence in how we’re protecting him... When you get hit the way that he got hit, there were some quarterbacks that wouldn’t have made it through the season.”

    “Everybody got down on the quarterback,” a Jets source said. “But they weren’t looking at the situations we were putting him in. I don’t think he’s as bad as people are making him out to be. When the ---- started snowballing and he lost confidence, he never recovered. Then, you saw him making one stupid throw and one stupid mistake after another.”


    (Negative)

    “They don’t want to be truthful with him,” one prominent player said of the way that the organization has handled Sanchez. “They treat him like a baby instead of a man. He goes in a hole when someone tells him the truth.”

    “They see the organization babying him,” said a Jets source. “They see him with a sense of entitlement. He’s been given all this and hasn’t done anything. They call him ‘San-chise.’ They make him the face of the organization. They gave him the captain tag. He’s not a captain. He should have never been a captain.”

    “We have to bring in another quarterback that will make him work at practice,” said one player. “He’s lazy and content because he knows he’s not going to be benched.”

    (Sanchez’s inability to handle mounting criticism) “So that should tell you everything,” the source said. “He just doesn’t have the mental toughness to be great... especially in New York.”

    “How can we (win a superbowl) when he’s not improving at all?” one of Sanchez’s teammates said. “He thinks he is, but he’s not. He has shown us what he’s capable of.”


    Manning:

    “Come on. That’s a no-brainer,” a Jets source said. “If you have a chance to get a healthy 36-year-old Peyton Manning and you don’t do it, then you’re stupid. If I could get a healthy 36-year-old Peyton Manning, then, hell yeah, I would trade Sanchez.”

    “We already have his coach — Tom Moore,” one well-respected player said. “Plus, he’s a field general and will get everyone lined up. He will get his playmakers the ball. We can win a Super Bowl with Peyton.”

    “I don’t think that he’ll come here,” a member of the Jets organization said. “We have to change the perception of our organization. We’re not the organization that players said they wanted to play for a year or two ago. We’re starting to come across a little flaky. We talk the talk. We don’t back it up. We’re out of control. There’s no discipline. It’s a mess right now.”
     
  8. Organized Chaos

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    It's probably Tanny and Woody planting the seeds to justify cutting a bunch of players to bring in Manning and sell a few more luxury box seats.

    /tinfoil hat
     
  9. Noam

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    Terrel Suggs was right when he said Sanchez is soft and gives up when pressured. He is the softest and weakest QB in football. Sackchez almost never stays in the pocket and takes a hit. He would rather crumple into a ball and take a sack rather than take a hit throwing the ball away or to a receiver. Almost every sack he took this year was self inflicted because he panicked, shuffled his feet and did nothing while being pressured or panicked and ran into the rush.

    He is a fine flag football QB and does well when his receivers are wide open and when he is not rushed. Hence why sackchez does well on play action and in the 2 minute drill. But if his primary receiver is covered he simply gives up and panics. He is not a tackle football QB and he cannot play in the NFL. The Jets have had to constantly simplify the gameplan for him. They run 5WR sets all the time to simplify his reads because if he is confused pre snap he panics and makes mistakes. They run 1-3 step drops because he cannot be trusted in the pocket. The entire offense was based on around protecting the team from Sanchez making a mistake.

    This idea that he played well in the playoffs is such a farce. The Colts game last year he was beyond awful. He missed at least 3 wide open receivers for TDS. He was so bad in the first half the CS had to take the ball out of his hands in the 2nd half and abandon the pass. The Pats game he was statistically good but was still off the mark throwing high on almost every pass. He was bailed out by 3 fantastic plays by the receivers on all three TDs and a number of amazing catches by Edwards and Holmes on high poorly thrown balls.

    Sanchez is terrible his numbers are inflated because he has been protected and is only allowed to throw in favorable situations where defenses are expecting the run. He had a large number of passing TDs because of good playing calling using play action at the goal line to hit wide open receivers. The Jets play calling this year gave him a ton of easy 5 yard or less TDs, If he had to play in situations like a normal QB playing from behind and being forced to pass the ball in actual passing situations he would not still be in the league. If he had to play against defenses that were defending against the pass rather than selling out on the run he would even worse than he is now. He is mentally weak, soft and unable to read defenses or make decisions. The game is simply to fast for him. He might be a nice guy but he should not be in the NFL.
     
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    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, because you know more than the people who are around him everyday.....righttttt
     
  11. CBG

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    this certainly is a train wreck :sad:
     
  12. milcus

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    Well said.
     
  13. MiamiDolphin

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    When I watched Hard Knocks, I swear this is what I thought of Sanchez :

    - Schottenheimer is WAY TOO friendly with this kid
    - Sanchez is not giving his job the attention and serious demeanor it deserves
    - Sanchez has too much freedom

    His body language, everything. Jets building must have looked like a playpen or high school to him.
     
  14. Braylon4ever

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    A juvenile post calling Mark...SACKCHEZ.... and milcus saying "well said." alrighty then. :rolleyes:

    You know...Mark wouldn't get sacked if he had an RT who could PASS-BLOCK.

    And what would you prefer? For Mark to throw the ball into coverage to get INT'd instead of just taking a sack?
     
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  15. InChadWeTrust

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    You know why it's anonymous?

    Because it's probably made up.
     
  16. Jet Blue

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    Then he beat SD, Indy, NE and Cincy on the road and won more playoff games than Dan Freaking Marino and you crawled back up into your hole until one day the Jets didn't make the playoffs....


    PUHLEASE......

    Beat it... There is absolutely nothing a Dolphin fan can tell me right now that I don't already know and I have no reason in being some jagoff on a miami board.
     
  17. InChadWeTrust

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    I suppose it's the fault of the offense that Cromartie was afraid to tackle Tebow on that fourth quarter run. I suppose it's the fault of the offense that Cromartie was lazy on the "tackle" of Victor Cruz that went for 99 yards.

    Doesn't that frustrate you that he opens his mouth like that? You can make the case that this guy had more to do with 2 of our lost games than anyone else and yet he's calling people out. Unreal.
     
  18. Barcs

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    Good thing the Giants didn't bail on Eli after his first three "horrific" seasons. It's not even fair to say that crap, since Sanchez improved his game on all fronts, despite playing hurt for 6-7 games. The rhetoric really gets old.
     
  19. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    He did not improve his game on all fronts. :eek:hmy:
     
  20. Noam

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    I would prefer him to make a decision. Rather than panicking and shuffling his feet waiting to get hit. He could throw it to a receiver, throw it away or move to avoid the rush. The problem is he does nothing. While the Jets were at the top of the league in sacks allowed they were at the bottom in QB hits because Sanchez never will not throw when being rushed or extend the play. Watch a real NFL QB and see how many times he takes hit throwing a ball away, hits a WR while being hit or extends the play with his feet. Quite a lot. Watch Sackchez shuffle his feet standing in place while he has wide open receivers and he does nothing but panic. He almost never throws the ball and takes a hit. He would rather crumple into a ball and protect himself. The game is simply to fast for him. When rushed he cannot make decisions with the speed of a normal NFL QB. Like I said he would be a fine flag football QB but he cannot play tackle football. He is mentally weak, soft and unable to read defenses or make decisions.
     
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