Would signing Peyton actually make Sanchez a better QB ?

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  1. dcm1602

    dcm1602 Member

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    Dont get me wrong, I think its extremely extremely doubtful that this actually happens.

    However in the rare chance that we actually signed Peyton, would this actually help Sanchez out ?

    Peyton is very likely the most intelligent (on the field) QB in the history of the game by a massive margin. Sanchez is definitely above average in talent, but has god awful decision making, and is very poor at reading defenses.

    While theres no doubt signing Peyton would be a massive kick in the balls to his confidence, could it actually turn him into the franchise QB we know Sanchez could be ?
     
  2. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Would it matter? The NYJ would only aquire P Manning if he could realistically make the Jets contend for the SB. He'd probably spend 3, maybe more, seasons at QB if he were brought in.

    Sanchez would be history if Manning were acquired.
     
  3. dcm1602

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    Peytons 36 coming off of neck surgery, I dont know if its certain that he would want a 3 + year contract
     
  4. Nilton

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    Colts gave him a 6 year deal..so I'm guessing he wants at least 4 with an option if not 5 and an option and a bunch of guaranteed money. Jets are also in no position to have 2 qb's like that..if only Sanchez had been getting paid cam newton money rather than what he is being paid lol.
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Peyton Manning is not coming to play for the NY Jets.

    There's just no scenario in which that could possibly happen at this point. He will cost too much in immediate money assuming he is released by the Colts before they pay his $28 million bonus due at the start of the year. He will cost too much in value if they pay the bonus and then trade him.

    The Jets do not have the cap space, even if they release Sanchez, to accommodate a 25+ million cap hit for 2012 and that's where Manning is going to sit with whoever signs him off of a release.

    They don't have the trade value to make the Colts an offer assuming the Colts decide to let him go. I mean, what team in their right mind would let go of multiple 1st round picks plus more for a 36 year old QB coming off of neck surgery after a missed season? Even if the Jets did make that move they wouldn't win anything next year because the cost of the trade would preclude filling the gaping holes that currently exist on the roster.

    It's just not happening.
     
  6. Organized Chaos

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    He could renegotiate the deal to make it more trade friendly. It is just really unlikely the Jets would do it. The only wildcards to me are tanny and woody.

    I do not see it happening.

    If it did somehow happen I dont see sanchez staying. Maybe he could be reunited with pete caroll.
     
  7. Br4d

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    Peyton Manning has no reason to renegotiate a deal to make it more trade-friendly when what he gets out of doing that is playing in a hostile major media market behind a weakening offensive line in a system that nobody else can make work.

    He doesn't have anything to prove at this point. If he plays he'll do it because he really wants to play and enjoy the last few seasons of his career as he tries for some records. The Jets are literally the last place a sane person would pick if those were the goals they had in mind.

    He'll want a warm weather venue or dome in a media market that is homogenous and slanted towards supporting the team not the major divisive freakshow that the NY market is.

    Edit: and I'll back-track a little bit on the "last place" argument. Philly is the last place, the Jets are second to last.
     
  8. Canadajetsfan

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    The only way I want to see p manning in new York is as OC. I truly believe Sanchez is the guy, he was not set up to be successful this year. Give him an o line, a running game and a deep threat and he will flourish.
     
  9. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    You hit the nail on the head....there are NO teams that will break the bank with a long term deal worth $25M per to bring in a 36+ yr old QB recovering from multiple neck wounds.

    Manning will be cut. Manning won't be getting his $28M from the Colts, or from anyone else.

    I say he ends up playing for the Vikings on a 2 yr deal that averages $15-$18 m/yr.

    Manning just won't have that many choices to choose from.
     
  10. Jake

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    Give fuckin KOZ an oline, a running game and a deep threat and he'll flourish..... Easier said than done.
     
  11. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    There is no way Sanchez gets better at this point in his career by watching with a clip board in his hands. If you want to bring in somebody to "teach" him, fire the OC and Cavanaugh and hire a new QB coach (Pennington?). Watching Manning play will do him no good whatsoever. And Sanchez will likely demand a trade if Manning is brought in any way. Then we will have our very own Drew Brees to go to another team and flourish.
     
  12. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Too bad Nacho (unlike Brees) has showed zero signs of being anywhere near capable of going to any other team to "flourish" in his first 3 years starting based on the numbers.
     
  13. 94Abraham

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    Someone must be hammered already....
     
  14. Zach

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    Ask Kellen Clemens.
     
  15. OverloadBlitz

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    What signs did Bree's show his first 3 seasons, he was getting bashed by San Diego fans as well.
     
  16. Canadajetsfan

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    Don't see the benefit in bringing in a 36 year old with a bum neck, even though it is #18. Not sure he would do anything with Wayne hunter and lazy receivers anyways. Give dirty a chance without schitty and see what he can do, I love the idea of bringing in pennington( not sure if that's even an option ) but I think we have our guy, he just needs help.
    PS: someone text or tweet DK and tell him to get his head around tomorrow when he is the hot, it's frusturating to watch.
     
  17. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Year 3 as a starter : 65% completion percentage, 3200 yards, 27 TD to 7 INT ratio and a 104.8 QB rating. He may of been bashed in his first 2 seasons starting but anyone who would bash him after those stats are insane....
     
  18. OverloadBlitz

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    Considering he didn't even START his first season and played like 3 years in College he was god awful his first two seasons starting(17 TD's 16 INTs first season 11 TD's 15 INTs second season).
     
  19. 94Abraham

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    Yeah, he only did something with below average players like Austin Colie, Blair White, and a no named Jacob Tamme. There are already reports that his velocity is already up from what it was a year ago after the surgery. None of us are doctors or claim to be but if he is physically able to play and cleared to play, it would be silly to not take a chance on one of the best QBs to ever play the game.
     
  20. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    As was Sanchez in his first 2 seasons. According to your logic, since he didnt play 3 years in college, we should just give him another 3 years i take it? Get real. He is getting paid as a top 5 QB in a big market. No way does he get that much time....
     

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