Keller’s Banner Year Comes During Holmes’ Gutter Year

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    http://www.thejetsblog.com/2011/12/31/kellers-banner-year-comes-during-holmes-gutter-year/

    At least he has good celebrations when we're down 3 scores.

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  2. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    If the Jets were able to get traditional TE production (i.e., short-yardage receiving and good blocking) from a tandem of Cumberland and, say, Baker, is it possible that Keller could be productive, if he was split out as a wide receiver?
     
  3. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Im not convinced Keller is the answer at TE
     
  4. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    Keller has also had some bad drops and miscues.
     
  5. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    And that was true last year also. Keller drops too many passes. I also think he is not utilized properly. With the speed of a WR, why he doesn't run more seam routes is beyond me. Again, the issue is with the OC and the offensive system.
     
  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You mean like when the guy across from him blitzes, he doesn't look for the ball and it bounces off his facemask? How many times have we seen that this year?
     
  7. JETSJETSJETS17

    JETSJETSJETS17 Well-Known Member

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    There are some games that I forget that Keller is even on the field - it's pretty sad that he will lead the team in receptions.
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Keller is a tweener. Not big enough to be a classical possession tightend and not fast or tall enough to be split out wide consistently in the offense or used as a screen asset.

    His best routes are straight up the seams when he is mismatched on a linebacker who is not a good enough pass defender to maintain coverage for more than a couple of seconds.

    He's like a smaller version of Dallas Clark and probably his best fit would be in a spread offense where the tightend is used primarily straight up the seams in the spread.
     
  9. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Keller has above average hands and speed for a tight end, but he doesn't break tackles, and in the open field is a below average runner after the catch. His patented "jump-juke" move when faced with a tackler downfield, which never works, is evidence of this. And obviously he's not on the field for his blocking.

    That's my scouting report. I'm sure if Mr. E was still posting here he'd tell me I didn't know shit about football and I should DIAF.
     
  10. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Usually when a TE is mentioned in a game it's a good thing, but with the Jets I'm not so sure that's always true
     
  11. yanks9596

    yanks9596 Well-Known Member

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    Keller disappears for quarters if not halves at a time... and THIS is our leading receiver? The air attack of the 2011 Jets has been beyond pitiful. Far from acceptable from any NFL team. Truly painful to watch.
     
  12. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    I don't see how anyone could disagree with any of this. Keller being the best receiver on the team is a dictionary definition of the phrase "damning with faint praise."
     
  13. hiker

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    The 2 considerations that make Keller #1 have to do with Sanchez not having the time to check down consistently and that no receivers are getting open in the time he has to throw. Which both comes down to a lack of line play. Well, that and Plax not getting open without having to push off anymore.

    Replace Plax, put in Kerley on at least 70% of snaps, and replace the RT. Then Holmes will be productive again, and Keller will go back to being the third or fourth option. And the world can go back to normal again.
     
  14. Flyboy

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    The guy is too inconsistent, like a lot of other guys on the offense. Again, it could be the lousy play calling that makes these guys look like they're playing with their heads in their asses.
     
  15. H-back my good man. Think Mickey Shuler. Richie Anderson. Hell even Chris Cooley. I said from the second he got drafted that's where he belonged.

    Funny, I was just about to start a thread about how moving forward Keller should be removed from a "conventional tight end" role. He is absolutely perfect for an H back. Then the jets can bring in more of a blocking/short yardage option at tight end, which the team seems to be missing and needs. Call me crazy,but if I remember right, Bill Callahan had an H-back type while in Oakland.
     
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  16. Nilton

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    I come away with Holmes sucking more than Keller getting chances as a result. Overpaid him badly.
     
  17. Br4d

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    There are definitely ways to use Keller that will make him a real asset. however I don't know that those ways are going to fit well in the offense that Rex (properly) wants to run.

    The spread that Peyton Manning and Tom Brady run is really not conducive to supporting a strong defensive effort on a consistent basis. That offense scores too fast when it scores, and has too many short possessions when it does not.

    When the Patriots were great, meaning winning Super Bowls consistently, they ran the best sequence offense in the NFL. They took 6 minutes to score a TD and gave the defense a long time to rest from the previous drive and make adjustments for the next one. That sequence offense was vintage Charlie Weis, with a bunch of receivers looking to move the chains and break one if possible and several backs used in rotation to keep play action alive.

    The Patriots just wanted to get the ball in a one score game with 6 minutes left on the clock and the game was over, regardless of who was up when they got it.
     
  18. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    Banner year? If only TE's got picked for the pro bowl based on sh-t blocking ability and the number of passes that bounce off his chest, helmet, facemask and hands, or how many lame shimmies he makes at the top of his route which never fool anybody.

    It's an absolute joke that we traded up to get him in the 1st, when NE finds talent like Gronkowski in the 2nd and Hernandez in the 4th, and NO steals Jimmy Graham in the 3rd.

    Tannenbaum should go back to being a cap guru who looks like the fat kid at summer camp because he doesn't know a damn thing about football.
     
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  19. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    It's amazing how much smarter at football random dudes on the internet are than the general manager of the New York Jets.
     

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