It was a mistake to start Sanchez in yr 1

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  1. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    In terms of QB rating the best QBs are (in order): Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Romo, Schaub, Stafford.

    What do these guys have in common? They all held a clip-board their whole 1st year in the NFL (some of them even more). Only in Stafford's case it wasn't a choice but since he sat out 6 games in 2009 and 13 in 2010 he counts in my argument.

    My opinion is it's very stupid to throw a QB onto the field straight from college. He needs time on the sideline to see what the NFL speed is like in terms of playing, preparation etc. Asking him to both adapat AND produce at the same time is moronic... especially in a city like NY where nothing is forgiven by the fans.

    All of this to say after 3 years I strongly disagree with what the Jets did with Sanchez. And the fact he looks so confused and insecure on the field in year 3 has someting to do with him having never had the opportunity to work on himself without worrying about next week's opponent.
    While in the short run it may have been a good thing to play Sanchez (who else did we have in 2009?) in the long run it might turn out to be a mistake. Especially considering he started less than 20 games in college.


    PS To be fair all those guys have some pretty good WRs/TEs... Certainly better than the Holmes-Keller duo -.-"
     
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    Start Kellen Clemens!
     
  3. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    I disagree wholeheartedly. I'd rather he experience the highs and lows of the NFL.

    Also if he isn't the answer we would know sooner than if we just let him chill and start after a year or two.
     
  4. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    I get what you're saying... but I think all the pressure Sanchez has been put under in these 3 years is starting to show. The fact he's insecure and questions himself on the field too often is related with the fact he was thrown in with the wolves from day 1.
     
  5. ukjetsfan

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    I would normally agree that a quarterback needs a season to adjust to life in the NFL, but in Sanchez's case, the Jets gave him the security blanket of a dominating running game, so he wasn't really thrown to the wolves.

    He didn't need to be the focus of the team when he was handing the ball off so often.

    I don't think we'd be having all these discussions about Sanchez's progress if that was still in place this year. For various reasons - a desired shift in offensive focus at the start of the year, then the injury to Mangold and finally some head-scratching play-calling from Schotty - Sanchez has been asked to shoulder more of the load this year and he hasn't been ready.

    I would also argue that the majority of bad experiences Sanchez has endured have come this season, not in his rookie year.
     
  6. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Our offenses' struggles in 2011 have nothing to do with Sanchez starting in 2009. It's OL and personnel.
     
  7. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    He's also insecure because Wayne Hunter sucks and he can't even complete a 3 step drop without getting killed. The play calling also sucks. He's at fault too for the offenses struggle but I highly doubt a marginally better qb would do well considering the circumstances.

    Oh and in before jetsown22 hijacks this thread
     
  8. TheCoolerGlennFoley

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    Co-signed.
     
  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    This is pretty much how it goes for QB's taken towards to the top of the draft now. Some have had success, others have not. I'm glad he got those rookie growing pains out of the way 2 years ago.
     
  10. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Yeah, I didn't enjoy the playoff success at all that year...

    The jets had a bad this year, it sucks but it is reality, no amount of weird theories as to why are going to fix anything right now.
     
  11. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    It's not over yet. We still have a chance.
     
  12. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    This team is still a dissapointment as a whole but a miracle playoff run would make the sting much less.
     
  13. JoeWillie130

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    What about Peyton Manning? He didnt sit at all.

    I would say to an extent I agree it's better to sit for a year because it can ruin some guys but that is for the ones that don't have teams around them. You have a good o-line and running game where you dont ask the QB to do too much then I think the experience is benefecial. If you have a weak o-line and running game then you are setting a guy up for failure.
     
  14. Br4d

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    The OP makes an interesting point. I think if the Jets had a real alternative to starting Sanchez in 2009 they might have been better served by letting him at least start the season on the sidelines until he got his feet on the ground and got to see the NFL at full speed.

    They didn't really have that alternative available so they did the next best thing, which was to give him as much experience early on as they could. There's no point in having a talented young QB sit in the absence of somebody who would be productive on the field if he sat.

    I think when everything is said and done in Sanchez career he's going to be a memorable player and we're going to be glad he put the pads on for the Jets. At least part of whatever he becomes is going to be due to the fact that he was thrown into the fire early and survived the experience, even thriving at times when the pressure was really on.

    Would having a Jon Kitna to take the heat off of him have made things better at this point? I have no clue on that score. Some guys get better when they sit and learn and others have to do. I think Sanchez was probably a "have to do" kind of guy but it's just a guess.
     
  15. deathstar

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    Holy shit, you guys have gone insane...
     
  16. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Yeah, no kidding :sad::eek:hmy:
     
  17. FJF

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    with the way rookies at the top of the draft were getting paid.it was almost impossible to sit them for a year.
    look at the o.p.'s list an only stafford was a top pick and he only sat because of injury.
    with the new rookie wage scale you may see more qb's sitting but i doubt it.most teams drafting a qb high are doing so because they didn't have a viable option the year before.
     
  18. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    This whole concept makes no sense. The OP's argument only makes sense in analyzing his first year. Hes 3 years down teh road now with SIX playoff games experience. His struggles now have nothing to do with playing right outta college. Makes ZERO sense.

    Furthermore, had he sat from teh start and we had another QB at the time, he prolly would still be sitting on the bench cuz he sucks
     
  19. TommyJ

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    Flacco and Ryan didn't sit and they did very well. And i thought Sanchez played well
    during the playoffs, he did a hell of a job in cincy and san diego. he played well in Indy too but that last drive before halftime kinda stung the jets along with losing a few players on defense. I'm all for a rookie to learn but these days with the money that is being doled out, the powers that be want results right away, as do the fans.
    I still think Sanchez can be a great QB.
     
  20. colleen74

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    :lol: Seriously!! When deathstar is the voice of reason you know it's all gone to hell in a handbasket!
     

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