4 touchdown passes, career high, for our QB mark sanchez

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  1. Jets42long

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    These were not all drops. I consider a drop when a passes is thrown well and the receiver simply drops the ball. At least three of those examples were poorly thrown balls, that would have been spectacular catches
     
  2. rholt168

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    Tony Romo, Phillip Rivers, etc.
     
  3. tank75

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    sanchez played alright, if anything it was more proof how inept schotty is, how many 3 and outs this week? why so much passing when we are beasting them on the ground? too much inconsistency and now the defense isn't playing as well as wed hoped, revis has an off day, and a special teams mistake leading to an exceptional brad smith play and i could sense the td coming when i saw cro on smith after the fumble just thinking 'oh god heres smith itchin to show the jets they should have kept him' and there you have it. im starting to lose faith in the jets because at this point we seem to be just letting huge weapons go for the sake of not wanting to pay them more money or something? i dot even understand we have the cap room to have kept smith. anyway, this long and probably slightly incoherent post is more meant to say that sanchez is not a great quarterback, but if the game is close he can find a way to win. the biggest problem i see with the jets offense, and i am a very vocal person about this, is the overall gameplan on offense. it just lacks any sort of coherence and the offense by the end of game looks like a completely different team sometimes. the problem with this system is that it expects the quarterback to be perfect, and thats just bad coaching because no player is perfect, and i dont think many quarterbacks would have the same success they do other places in this offense. mark isnt great but he istn the problem.
     
  4. MikeHoncho

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    His best drive of the game was when they came out in the 3rd quarter running and using play action.. the offense looked great and Sanchez looked sharp. THAT is his game, that's where he excels.

    So naturally what did Schitty do next time they had the ball? Come out in shotgun, spread the field and throw deep down the field 3 straight plays. And what happened? They looked like crap and got a few incomplete passes.

    When Sanchez is put in a position to succeed, he usually does. When he's able to play to his strengths he looks great. When Schitty pulls his usual shit, the offense falters.
     
  5. ajax

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    Sanchez also benefited from some incredible catches from his receivers. Keller's one handed catch that he initially tipped into the air to himself. Plaxx down the sidelines on the final drive. Sanchez doesn't suffer from an incredible amount of dropped passes.

    It would help his cause if he didn't stare down his receivers, if he didn't lead his receivers right into defenders & if tried to limit how often he throws into double, triple coverage.
     
  6. Dierking

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    If this is what we're going to get from Sanchez, I'll take it. I still think with an offense that was designed better, and (gasp) designed to exploit his strengths, he'd have better numbers and wouldn't make so many glaring mistakes.
     
  7. Johnny English

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    This would broadly be my position. I can't believe there's another OC who would have seen the success that Greene and McKnight were having, and decided that the way to capitalise on it was to go shotgun with four wide.
     
  8. AJayJay

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    Did anyone say that Sanchez didn't benefit from a few dropped int's today? Of course we did but let's not act like the dropped balls from Plax, Tone and Keller was Sanchez's fault as well. When the ball hits you in the hands that is on the receiver.
     
  9. RobertTheJr

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    We get it... excuse everyone EXCEPT the 3rd year QB.

    Line falls apart, Sanchez is sacked = Sanchez can't feel the pressure, Sanchez sucks

    Line falls apart, Sanchez fumbles = Sanchez can't feel the pressure, Sanchez sucks

    Defense falls apart = Defense on the field too long, Sanchez sucks

    No rushing game = Defense stacks the box, Sanchez sucks

    Receivers drop catchable passes in a PRO league = Pass off line, Sanchez Sucks

    Sanchez throws interception = Told you a million times, Sanchez sucks

    Team loses on last drive = WTF?!?! Cut Sanchez!
     
  10. therealmark

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    Thats because the Qb is the most important position on your team. Qb controls the tempo of the game, if he keeps going 3 and out de gets gassed and sucks, get it?
     
  11. ajax

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    This is what I don't get. Were you watching another game or are you unable to take off your Sanchez homer glasses when analyzing the game. Sanchez didn't suffer from many drop passes & he wasn't constantly hitting receivers in the hands. He was throwing into coverage & I remember him leading Holmes right into a defender to get Holmes hit knocked off.

    Everyone acknowledges Sanchez got lucky from a few dropped int. But where is this logic coming from that Sanchez was hitting receivers on the hands & their inability to catch is holding him back?
     
  12. Jets42long

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    I didn't say any of that.

    My point Is that Sanchez probably does suffer from more dropped passes than most Qbs. But that is because his throws are less acurate than most Qbs.
     
  13. Br4d

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    The offense is designed to make Schotty look good, not to exploit his player's strengths. That's the primary reason Schotty looks so bad.
     
  14. dmarz45

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    He did come thru in the clutch for us and I give him props for that. A win is a win no matter what. I am still not confident in him until he shows us he can play against a good defense...

    and another thing, we need to rollout Sanchez much more. He throws so much better on the run..
     
  15. RobertTheJr

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    That pass to Holmes, thrown to Keller, would have been a completion. Sometimes, as a pro making millions of dollars and the captain of the team, you have to take a hit - some players do that better than others.
     
  16. CarlDouglas

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    Rex always says that a QB should be judged on a wins just like a pitcher. I think Sanchez is actually more like a good closer given his performances in the fourth quarter, if the metaphor stretches that far.

    Sanchez gets better the harder the situation and the bigger the game. He's a leader and a winner.
     
  17. ajax

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    There you go making up a false argument to make yourself look smart. Those comments are not in this thread but it's nice for you to offer a rebuttal just in case somebody in the future decides to post up those arguments.

    Sanchez played well enough to win & I don't see anyone disputing that. The nonsense is from these pro-Sanchez posts on how this game is just another example of how elite Sanchez & what an amazing performance he had on the field today.
     
  18. AJayJay

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    Did Sanchez play a great game? Hell no.

    There was not an insane amount of drops today, agreed.

    There were 3 drops I can remember.

    Tone dropped a tough catch in the endzone on a fade route. Tough catch but Mark put it where Santonio had a good enough grasp on the ball that it was catchable.

    When we were backed up against our own touchdown once Sanchez put the ball on a deep route near the sideline to Santonio again and it hit him in his hands and bounced out of bounds.

    Plax missed one late in the game that hit his hands in the middle of the field.

    Two of those three plays are conversions for first downs and the other one is a touchdown. The first down plays are huge as it gives the offense momentum and moves the chains.

    I don't have the "Sanchez homer glasses" on. I recognize his faults and inablilties but the drops there are killer. The receivers have to be accountable for the miscues just like Sanchez has to be accountable for squeezing the ball into double and triple coverage.
     
  19. Rockefella

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    Honest question. Are you a jets fan or an opposing teams troll?
     
  20. therealmark

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    Am I supposed to pretend that Sanchez is the greatest qb in the league and that he played a great game like all the Sanchez supporters? Are the people who say Sanchez is a franchise qb and that its all the offensive lines, wr's, Shottys fault real jets fans? Im really happy about the win but lets not get ahead of ourselves we beat a shit team, if Sanchez plays like this vs a good de score will be 41-10.
     

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