2011 Week 11 Other Games Thread

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  1. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering about this too since the announcers made no mention of it. How does a penalty after the play offset with a penalty that occurred during the play? Anyone have any idea?
     
  2. guinness77

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    Have the officials really gotten this bad? And lazy?
    Are they depending on replay a little too much? That obviously bounced.

    I'm sick of the showboating and all the fucking fighting after the whistle. I'm all for a high spirited game, but the fighting after the whistle is getting out of hand in every game, not just tonight. The league needs to take a look at this after the season.
     
  3. guinness77

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    I'm with you on that. Stupid, stupid play (as usual) by Jackson, but even I turned to my wife and said that should have been a 15-yard penalty after the play was over.
     
  4. guinness77

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    The one time I actually need this piece of shit to have a halfway decent game, because I have Brees on a bye, he sucks. haha. Figures.
     
  5. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    I believe I've seen that before. The key, I think, is that whenever a foul is committed by both teams with no change of team possession during that play, the penalties will offset according to NFL rules. Taunting is considered unsportsmanlike conduct, and is therefore not a dead ball foul, so therefore the penalties offset the same way they would on an illegal hit.
     
  6. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Wow, absurdly easy TD for Steve Smith after another horrible 3-and-out for the Giants and a long punt return for McCoy. Still hard to believe the Giants will lose this game, but if they do it's just as embarrassing as the Jets' loss.
     
  7. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Wanna bet the Giants march down the field and score now?
     
  8. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    How come TDs aren't taken off the board then when players are flagged for unsportsmanlike/taunting after a score then?
     
  9. guinness77

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    Bloom coming off the rose for Ballard.
     
  10. guinness77

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    Stat is saying because there are offsetting penalties.
    I'm not sure, because I was with you on the "after the play was over" factor. But, he may be right, I don't know.
     
  11. guinness77

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    Maybe a FG.
     
  12. Kingfish

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    What the Hell is wrong with the Giants ?
    One week they look great. The next week they look like crap.

    It can't all be Eli's fault.
    :eek:hmy:
     
  13. NYGalPal

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    Catch the ball guys.
     
  14. rholt168

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    Danny Ware has no idea where he is right now.
     
  15. guinness77

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    Damn.

    The Cullen Jenkins express gets in at :05!!!
     
  16. rholt168

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    And that was helmet to helmet.
     
  17. Jets007

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    Wow Ware just got nailed and Giants are playing like the JETs! LOL
     
  18. statjeff22

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    Because the play is dead as soon as the ball crosses the goal line (all clocks stop running), so it is a dead ball foul in that situation.

    The key thing to remember is that fairness has nothing to do with it (if it did, of course the 15 yards should have just been imposed after the completion); it's purely black-letter NFL rules, and sometimes it results in unfair or bizarre results.
     
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  19. Brunell's Debt

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    Eli's receivers have given him zero help tonight.

    I can't remember a receiver whose effectiveness varies from play to play more than Victor Cruz. He's either reeling in circus catches or letting perfect throws bounce off his numbers, it's really bizarre.
     
  20. CurbYourEnthusiasm

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    Jay Cutler looks to be out for the season with a broken thumb. QBs are dropping like flies here.
     

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