It's pretty obvious that no one's voice is really being heard be it Moore, Callahan or Cavanaugh so I don't think you can count them out. It is baffling with the amount of offensive coaching talent we have that nothing has changed.
Norv Sucks. He's like Brian... You need to get someone with a sense of the modern NFL passing offense. It's not Norv. There's a reason Phillip Rivers sucks, and it's not lack of Talent. My Suggestion, would be to get rid of Cavanaugh, get Paul Hackett, (Or Pennington or Rich Gannon) as QB coach. Then Find someone (Charlie Weis would be Ideal, but as has been pointed out he's unlikely ot leave his cushy college gig), Dan Henning is likely to be out of Miami when Sparano gets fired, he's an immediate upgrade. Someone above said Todd Hayley, that works. But anyone that has a grasp of how the F*ng rules favor the passing offense will work.
uBill Callahan is the most logical choice. We can win with him and get to the SB. Not saying Sanchez would be his QB, but REX has to respect a man who is known for a sick OL with monsters, a decent QB who knows how to play and air it out. The problem is that we don't have any downfield threats at WR. I can live with Holmes, but we would need 2-3 other quick and fast WRs, Callahan is also known for running the ball. I want Callahan for OC but Rex has to let the man do his thing and back him up. This could all be corrected next year, but in order to get to a SB, you must build from the draft like I have been saying for years. Keep all your picks and trade down when possible for more picks. This is the winning formula. Look at the teams that went. They drafted and keep all their picks and even aquired more by trading down. Tanny is a money man not a draft scout. We need a pure draft scout who will take BAP or trade down and still be on target.
C'mon you can't say that. And the Jets have picked up other previously drafted players i.e. Maybin, TE Nelson, OLB Sapp (on PS), OG Caleb Schlauderaff ...... There isn't much of a difference between a 6th rounder and an UDFA. And Belichick acquires 20 picks every year and 90% of those picks suck.
I think Tom Clements is absolutely #1 on my list. Make a full court press for this guy. I know Rex wants ground and pound, but one thing Rex does want is an OC who can really run the offense without Rex getting involved too much. Whether you agree with that or not that is something that the Jets will have to consider or Rex will have to change his methodology. I'll throw a big time dark horse and that's Dan Reeves. He's been out of football for a while, but I thought he did a good job with Vick and he was there with Elway (yeah I know they hated each other), but he still hand some hand in his development. Reeves isn't high on my list, but if all else fails something to possibly consider.
Dan Reeves? No.. come on. Clements is absolutely someone I can get on board with. I imagine there will be great demand for his services, though. But he has everything we would look for.. experience in a great offensive system, history of helping develop players (not just Rodgers), worked under many really good coaches. Here's his bio on the Packers website: http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/tom-clements/bb67e02f-a2b1-4543-83af-00f437249c9f Very impressive.
Tom Moore interested ? if so he will have had a year with Sanchez------------otherwise is Charlie Weiss interested ? It is a shame we had to deal with Schotty 2 extra years when many of us knew it was time a while ago. Now we are stuck finishing the season with him. Ps I wanted to see Sanchez yanked last nite for 3 reasons --- one is I thought he was playing badly despite being 14 of 17--slow reads dinking and dunking two after half time I thought -give the team a spark or lift but after the Pick 6 to just take a seat and clear his head and watch- three was I thought put Brunnell in to see if the offense looks any different ? Do they take more shots downfield or still dink and dunk ? If they ever do put Brunnell in any of these games and the offense looks different then maybe shotty gets a small pass and much of this does fall on Sanchez and the lack of trust they have in him ? We won't know for sure unless that happens so it is still a case of the chicken or the egg til then
Sweep the offensive staff and bring in a strong offensive coordinator who is grounded in the style of football that Rex prefers: conservative ball-control minimizing mistakes and taking shots when they're there. Mark Sanchez is better in ground and pound because it draws people to the line of scrimmage and makes play-action more effective. If the Jets were running the ground and pound correctly they'd have receivers going deep on half the downs, taking people with them and god help the defensive back who didn't respect the play fakes because Sanchez would be burning them like toast. The underneath routes would be more open also because of the defense's need to both clog the box and cover the deep guys.
If we can't get a guy like Tom Clements or Joe Lombardi (Saints QB coach), who would you want? I just threw Reeves out there as just a possible last resort? Would you rather have Bill Callahan? I would be ok with that, but I wouldn't be too happy with that considering the play of the offensive line this year.
We will never know what the Jets have in Sanchez unless they switch OC! As of right now Sanchez can't preform in the current system..Schotty is not capable to make any adjustments when the offense sputters....how long have we seen the offense come out flat at the start of games...this puts the team behind....his playcalling just doesn't flow or make anykind of sense. How many times have we seen the offense moving down the field wether its with the run or passing game and it all seems to bog down after some stupid reverse or widereciever screen that looses yards and then he totally goes away with what was working. Schotty is clueless! he has to go so they can see if it's him or if it's Sanchez that is a bust.....you can't fire a QB that you have time and money invested in...it has to be the OC. Look at Steve Young...all those years at Tampa Bay...people called him overrated and a bust....he goes to San Fran (great coaches who knew how to use him and surrounded him with talent)...Hall of Famer. The Jets will never see what Sanchez has until they see what his real skill set is.....
The "Fire Schotty" movement should be full steam ahead by now. This guy is atrocious. Rex defending him with his blind loyalty is almost just as bad.
What we need is a offensive guru, ex head coach on board as a offensive coordinator. Sort of what the Saints did with Sean Peyton as HC and lead OC with Greg Williams being on board to lead the defense. That is what needs to be done here with the Jets. Problem is who do we go get? Screw Norv Turner...We have to find someone like a Mike Martz
Yeah I'm not that high on Callahan as the long-term answer.. only if they fire Schitty soon and need a guy the rest of the season. Unlike some here, I wouldn't have a problem at all with Norv Turner.. he's always proven to be a much better OC than HC, and he's always done a pretty good job with QB's. I'd like Charlie Weis to come in, but I don't think that's realistic. Unfortunately, I would think Rex's loyalty would lead to Cavanaugh getting the job instead of someone from the outside.. IF he ever realizes Schitty's gotta go that is.
That is why my vote is for Cavanaugh, when he was the OC for the Ravens under Billick the team was very successful running the ball, granted they had no QB, but I think we have a very capable QB who can thrive under that type of system. I don't think Woody would want to clean house on the offensive side of the ball, not his style. He would probably let BS go, but he runs this team like a business, try to put the right people in supervisory roles and give them time to produce. That's why I think he will promote from within. I agree with your assessment on MS and play action, the Jets were #1 and #4 in the league in rushing the ball the past 2 years hence their success in the regular season and the playoffs, their problems start when they try to be like the Pats and go to 4 and 5 receiver sets, not MS strength.
There's your guy. How much better do you think he's going to be after being immersed in the offense GB has been running? ***Coach Ryan, please pick up the White (flag) Courtesy phone....
I could see Cam Cameron getting the axe if the Ravens exit the playoffs early. I think he'd be a great pickup for the Jets.
Matt Cavanaugh Quarterbacks ◊ Under the tutelage of Cavanaugh, Mark Sanchez became the first Jets rookie quarterback to open a season as the club’s starter. In Sanchez’s debut, he became the fourth rookie quarterback since the merger in 1970 to win his opening day start on the road. In that contest he completed 18-of-31 passes for 272 yards, one touchdown and one interception for a passer rating of 84.3. ◊ Cavanaugh joins the Jets after four seasons as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Pittsburgh. In 2007, The Sporting News named Cavanaugh the top offensive coordinator in the Big East as Pitt produced their first 1,000-yard rusher in seven years (LeSean McCoy, 1,328 yards). In 2006, Pitt’s scoring average of nearly 32 points per game that season was its highest in 25 years. ◊ Cavanaugh last coached in the NFL as the offensive coordinator for the Ravens (1999-2004), where he was on the same staff as Jets Head Coach Rex Ryan. The Ravens won Super Bowl XXXV after the 2000 season when the offense featured a rushing attack that produced a franchise-record 2,199 yards. ◊ Offensive coordinator for the Bears (1997-98) and quarterbacks coach for the 49ers (1996) and Cardinals (1994-95). ◊ Began coaching career as Pitt tight ends coach in 1993 for Johnny Majors. CAREER HIGHLIGHTS ◊ A second-round selection of the Patriots in 1978, he spent five seasons (1978-82) with NE before stints with the 49ers (1983-85), Eagles (1986-89) and Giants (1990-91). Threw for 4,332 yards and 28 touchdowns in his career. ◊ Earned two Super Bowl rings as a player, as a backup quarterback for the Giants (XXV) and the 49ers (XIX). ◊ Starting quarterback for Pitt’s 1976 National Championship, capping the season with an MVP performance in the Sugar Bowl, leading Pittsburgh to a 27-3 victory over Georgia and appearing on the cover of Sports Illustrated, 1/10/77. ◊ Earned All-America status in 1977 and threw for 3,378 passing yards in his collegiate career. I know I have voted for Callahan to be our next OC, but just to show the guys here I can be flexible I would like Cavanaugh to be given a chance, this is his bio and it looks much better that Clements.
