If we were playing a half way decent QB tonight Cromartie would've given up like 8 catches. He's overpaid.
Fuck this. There were MAYBE a half dozen people on this board who viewed Edwards as 1a or 1b with Holmes. The rest of you were sucking Tanny's knob over Aso and begging for him to become a Jet. Well, fuck you for changing your minds now. Maybe if the OP was so convinced that Aso was a mistake, he should have weighed the fuck in back when the team was trying to sign him instead of bitching about it a few months later.
I wasn't one of them. Count me out at least. You can find my postings where I said: a. Edwards shouldn't be missed. b. I don't want Asomugha c. I think Jets should do something about safety.
Agreed. 100% I stated many times back when the Aso thing was so big that we should keep, Edwards. He should be our number one priority. Letting him leave would be a mistake. I never wanted them to waste the F/A money on just one player, it would have been a nightmare. It's kind of turning out that way anyway at this point. I think the Jets can turn it around, but they don't make it easy on us fans. Damn..
Trust me, I know you weren't one of them. It's just fucking frustrating to see people get so annoyed now when they shit all over us for not wanting Aso and prioritizing Edwards.
The one thing I totally disagree with, was placing the blame solely on Tanny. It is similar to the people that want to place total blame on Mangini for Vernon. Rex had a raging boner for Nmandi. It is blame that should be placed on both Rex and Tannenbaum. It was their collective mistake. Tannenbaum should have the balls to say,"No means no". Other than that I think your post is spot on. I wasn't in the sign Aso at all costs camp.
Braylon was a good #2, but like I said before we haven't lost a game because of Braylon fucking Edwards or anyone else on that we let go. LOL @ at the crazy shit I see on this board. Only player I miss is Jco.
Shaun Ellis in three-toed sloth mode put more pressure on the QB than the guys the Jets are playing at DE this season. I miss him a lot.
Jets made the decision to let Edwards, Smith, and any other player walk way before the Aso debacle. When have we let a key free agent leave our team under this current regime? Or within the last 5 years?
Pete Kendall in 2007, Damien Woody 2011, maybe Kerry Rhodes in 2010 given that Eric Smith has been really problematic and Rhodes main failure was that he didn't turn into a star as expected. You can argue the Braylon Edwards thing and it's hard to be sure but it's clear the Jets have zero downfield game in his absence and that was not true last year. The Jets have now had three major disappointment seasons in the last 5 and two of them turned on a sudden hole on the offensive line because the Jets decided to get rid of somebody and did not adequately replace them.
I agree with you 100% I am addressing specifically the FA shit that pops up every time we lose a game. Kendall, Woody, and Rhodes are all great examples of poor (Woody & Kendall) personnel decisions to questionable (Rhodes) that we had control over and made the decision to part with. Edwards did stretch the field, but lets take into account he did so with a much better running game also. I love Bray, I miss him I just hate when this comes up.
Regarding Burress, he started slow, but has since developed good chemistry with Mark and has given us a redzone threat that Braylon never did. He's been our best WR by a wide margin recently. Braylon's definitely a better blocker, but clearly there was something going on behind the scenes that led the FO to have no interest in pursuing him. I still would rather they signed Braylon, just because he's younger and more talented, but for this year Plax honestly might be the better player. Braylon's done nothing for the 49ers. On Woody, the Jets made an offer, he didn't like it, so he retired. Hunter was very solid filling in at the end of last season, and most agreed keeping Hunter at RT wouldn't be much of a downgrade so it's tough to blame Tanny for that. I agree the O-Line depth is unacceptably poor, but I think we all expected more from Vlad and don't forget that Turner going down hurt us a lot. Normally it would've been him playing the Mulligan role. And on Nnamdi, I just don't think it's fair to play Monday Morning Quarterback here. We all wanted him to go after him and stay in it when he was doing it, so it's unfair to criticize him for doing so afterwards. All indications were we had a good shot at him. If he had gone after Joseph, we would have never even had the chance - he made a gamble and it didn't pay off, but the chance to pair Revis with Nnamdi was worth the risk.
1. Cotchery wanted to leave 2. We dropped Edwards and brought in Plax and we've vastly improved our red zone offense. Edwards was a deep threat but he didn't have great success using his size as a red zone target. That, his off the field problems and his price tag are why he was gone. We were hoping that Plax could turn into the downfield threat that Braylon was but apparently two years in prison doesn't really help keep you in football shape. Call that one a wash at worst. 3. Woody was getting cortisone shots in his knee by the end of the season. He was getting beat-up and old. He played his heart out for us while he was still on the team and I love him for it but the fact that he basically retired right now is a big hint as to why the Jets let him walk. I just wish they did a better job of picking his replacement.
Either Tom Moore's presence meant absolutely nothing, or you are talking out of your own ass right there. True, Braylon Edwards may not be the red zone threat that Plax is, but it is not hard to see that his production would have improved this year. And he also provides the means to get to the red zone, unlike Plax, who is utterly useless out of the red zone. And for umpteenth time, what happened to him at SF has NO RELEVANCE WHATSOEVER with how he would have done HERE IN NEW YORK. I brought up McKinnie just to cast some light on the RT situation. I am not monday-morning quarterbacking. I DID NOT LIKE NNAMDI THING WHATSOEVER FROM THE START. So 'we all wanted him' is a big fat lie. I wasn't that 'we' camp. I know several others who didn't want him at the cost of the players Jets have to lose. And it was a stupid gamble that nobody had to bite.
I remember reading these boards and the majority did want nnamdi on the jets. My take on it at the time was that the opportunity to pair revis with nnamdi was worth it. It's easy to talk after the fact. I really felt at the time that the jets dropped the ball with Braylon. Even in mid august he was still available and i remember him willing to take a lower offer. It's just that tanny absolutely did not want to bring Braylon back.
I was hoping to keep both Braylon and Holmes. I think the Jets probably offered Braylon a deal, but I do think it was an ego thing to a certain extent. I'm sure the Jets would have done Plaxico's deal for Braylon. But they probably didn't think that would get it done, plus I don't know if Braylon would like that the Jets are valuing Santonio so much more than him. I was okay with Asomugha, mostly because I figured if we didn't get him, we'd have to bring back Cromartie, which I wasn't really in favor of.
My god, how many asinine threads are we going to see today? I get it we blew another game but what the heck does Aso have to do w/ today? a few days ago we had a home game to take control of the division, we are in a bad streak like 2 years ago and like last year- can we overcome like we did the last 2 years? we'll see but stop w/ the irrational threads please.
