no, not the Jets. If we prevail this week, then the Pats will have their own 3 losses in a row implosion to deal with. We pulled out of our tail spin, but we haven't seen the Pats (Brady) in this position in a long, long time. How will the Pats respond to a 3 game losing streak this late in the season?
Nothing wrong with speculating that the Jets will win this Sunday. It's not like we're talking about four in a row. Hell yes it is. It's amazing how vivid the Patriots mystique still is. Giants fans were all over the radio today: "I'll take Eli Manning over anybody. ANYBODY!" Anybody? No one would be saying that if Eli Manning led a game-winning drive against the 31st ranked Colts, but because he did it against the 32nd ranked Patriots, all of a sudden he's an MVP? Please. The Patriots are not a good team. That won't register in most people's minds for the entire season. Their offense has been figured out, and their defense is the worst in the league. Not average. Not below average. Not poor. Not bad. WORST. GPC. Thanks for not replacing Pioli, Bob.
after the Jet game the Pats play KC at home. Did you see what Miami did to that KC defense yesterday? They'll win that game 100-0.
I recall the Steelers being called old and slow early in the season, ppl throwing dirt on their grave. IF we win sunday, I can't wait to here ppl throwing dirt on Tom Brady. It's been a long time coming.
I guess we don't have to wait for 3 losses in a row.....their own rag has them 6 feet under. From the Boston Herald: http://bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1378964&position=0 Patriots’ best no longer enough Ron Borges By Ron Borges Monday, November 7, 2011 - Updated 5 hours ago FOXBORO — Sunday is how dynasties end: with small broken pieces, not large ones. Dynasties do not end in spectacular collapse or fiery conflagration. They end from the corrosive effect of winning, eaten bit by bit until the edge is no longer on your side of the line of scrimmage. The Patriots [team stats] had many chances yesterday to take control of what eventually became a 24-20 loss to the New York Giants, but could not do it. Quarterback Tom Brady [stats] did not have the kind of spectacularly accurate day so much his norm, too few remember how unusual it is. So, they are shocked when — as has been the case the past several weeks — balls are a little bit too far behind a receiver or a tad too high. Two turnovers were forced by a defense that continues to make just enough fatal mistakes to hang itself, but its counterparts on offense and special teams combined for four turnovers of their own. When the battle of errors is lost, most often so is the game. They lost because, when a few voices the past few years kept saying their drafting would come back to haunt them, the multitudes insisted “In Bill We Trust.” Whether the Bill is Bill Belichick or Bill Walsh or “Bill” Einstein, eventually drafts become fallow ground. Down the road, it affects your team in fatal ways, as it did yesterday. With the game on the line, a former undrafted rookie free agent cornerback named Kyle Arrington was flagged for a critical pass interference call and beaten for a touchdown. Another former undrafted rookie free agent defensive back named Sergio Brown was flagged for pass interference to put the ball on the 1-yard line on what became the Giants’ game-winning drive. A third former undrafted rookie linebacker Tracy White — who has played for five teams in nine years — was beaten for the winning score by Jake Ballard with 15 seconds to play because he was pressed into action after starter Gary Guyton was injured. Such small things are the corrosion that ends dynasties. They do not mean the Patriots cannot or will not beat the New York Jets [team stats] on Sunday night. They do not mean they are not still a playoff contender, either. What they mean is the days of dominance are behind them, and there is no scheme on Earth that can change it. Not when too many of your starters are really backups in disguise. “We did the best we could,” Belichick said after the Giants marched 80 yards in 81 seconds to turn a last-minute, 20-17 lead into the end of the Pats’ 20-game regular-season home winning streak. Belichick was right. As simple as it sounded, that is what happened yesterday and against the Steekers in Pittsburgh a week earlier. The Patriots have lost back-to-back games for only the third time since the beginning of the 2003 season because their best wasn’t quite enough. That is how it is because that is how it once was for the Cleveland Browns of the 1950s and the Green Bay Packers of the 1960s and the Steelers of the 1970s and the 49ers of the 1980s and the Cowboys of the 1990s. It is now the Patriots of the 2000s turn. They can say all they want that they have to execute better, but the real question is, are they capable of it? “On third-and-1 at the goal line, I have to play the run first,” White said when asked how Ballard beat him for the winning touchdown pass. “There was a little bit of hesitation (on his part) and he got off the line of scrimmage. It was a good read by the quarterback.” All true, but it’s the kind of thing that seldom happened to the Dynasty Patriots. In those days, it was the opponent who hesitated. It was the opponent who blinked. “They executed the play better than we did,” Arrington said. “It really doesn’t matter the way we played (defense) in the first half (which is to say magnificently). You have to play 60 minutes.” When they were winning Super Bowls by field goals, they played for 60 minutes. They made the other team blink not primarily because their coaches were smarter than the other coaches, even though at times they were, but because their players were better. Their players weren’t the ones who hesitated. Page: 1 2 Continue »
Borges writes a couple of these every season, since 2002. He's been the anti-Belichik guy ever since he wrote that the Pats would never win the SB against the Rams if Belichik didn't play Bledsoe....
Fun though this is, let's tramp down the dirt on the Patriots after we've won, shall we? They're still a very dangerous offensive team with a number of players who have destroyed us in the past. Our coronation can come after we've deposed the existing monarchy, but right now they're still on the throne.
Things have happened recently. Sanchez has thrown a few more passes that he wished he had back. He'll think about those against the Pats. Greene and McKnight got going and Keller, despite injury, was a playmaker. And we made 3rd Down Conversions... YES.... 1st downs! But more specifically, our DEF played Shut-Out football against the Bills. We whipped their asses in all phases, special teams included. Confidence. Come on Tommy-Boy, bring it here to our house. The place will be insane.
Nothing is a "given." You fight it out and the winner is the one with the most points. I do like our chances, however, after the recent Jets Divisional win and the Pats' loss. They played their best and got beat up by a NY team in their own house. Now come to NY and get beat up again in our house by an even better NY team than the one that beat you up in your own house.
Jesus, they're still 5-3...its only a two game losing streak! Looks like the wheels on the bandwagon are coming loose. The majority of Pats fans are jokes (and strictly Red Sox fans).
We definitely have the momentum going in to the game as well as the advantage of being at home, but this is always a scary matchup. Brady, Welker, Gronk and Hernandez are always a challenge for our D. That said, I'm expecting a win on Sunday. :jets:
Pre-Season all I heard was Ellis, Haynesworth and ochocinco were going to bury this division. They've all been irrelevant.
The New England Brady's. That's what we're facing Sunday night. That doesn't mean we can't get beaten by other people but literally the only thing that the Patriots do that is not below NFL average at this point is have Tom Brady throw passes. Borges is right. That's exactly how dynasties die: the number of things that they do that are excellent decline until they only have a few (or one) that is capable of winning for them and then that goes away and they're suddenly bad.