Mark Sanchez and his progression...

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  1. Br4d

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    Yeah but he didn't do that in his third season. Sanchez will be a stronger player in his 8th season also, just like Eli is now.
     
  2. AK-JETS4Life

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    I see Sanchez averaging 25TD and 12Int a season when he reaches his 5th year as long as the running attack stays strong with his progression. He will be a great quarterback in terms of stats once he gets his completion percentage around 62%. Not to mention, if his completion percentage gets better, his clutchness in last minute drives will be unreal. I see him developing a great skill set similar to Big Ben.
     
  3. ace_o_spades

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    Overall he's at 57.5% completion. That Baltimore game is bringing that down quite a bit
     
  4. rholt168

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    Eli in his full third season starting threw 20 picks and 23 tds for about 3,400 yards while completing 56% of his passes.
     
  5. NDmick

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    and that game is the aberration in the progression.

    Its a game that has little bearing on his progression as a QB, and that's why its not taken into consideration when looking at his body of work.
     
  6. BadgerOnLSD

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    I think he had one in Oakland too. And the SD game.
     
  7. Br4d

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    Nope, was the first interception when the Jets were in the red zone. That's what they said anyway and if you look at his splits he had zero Int's entering the game from the opponents 19 to the goal.

    Fitzpatrick had 2 coming into the game. Brady had 2 also. The Fins are a disaster area and I didn't see the need to try to sort out who had Int's where for them.

    Of the stable QB's in the AFC East Mark Sanchez went the longest into the season without throwing a red zone interception.
     
  8. Jetfanmack

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    You didn't include playoffs either, so he really has 1774.

    Either way, he is less experienced than the majority 3rd year QBs, even with the playoff experience. Even though that is worth more than college experience.
     
  9. Mantana Soss

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    I like this post, good perspective/research. I hope the slow but sure improvement continues.
     
  10. The Sanchise

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    He is a winner. Stand by him like Pittsburgh & Baltimore stands by their QB. We can win with him man
     
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    Ben Roethlisberger is an elite quarterback, why wouldn't they stand behind him?
     
  12. Montana

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    I wouldn't say it's an aberration......in fact one thing that sticks out about Mark's career, is that big duds like the Baltimore game, have been common place (he's averaged 4 such games per season).

    That said, I think those type of games, are a direct result of what my original post was alluding to.....those kind of blow up games, are a direct result of Mark having to do much of his learning at the NFL level, as opposed to the college level, like most QB's.


    In fact in the 9 games of his career that stand out as similar to the Baltimore game, he's 0-9, with 1 TD 22 INT's, 46% completion percentage with a QB rating of 31.07........which clearly have dragged down his total career numbers.

    Outside of those games, he's got a TD/INT ratio of 47 TD's, 21 INT's, a completions percentage of 58%, and a QB rating of 87.64


    I think one of the biggest differences we're going to see going forward, is games like that Baltimore game, are going to become aberrations (in fact I doubt we see another terrible game like that again this season, 1 at most)......and it's also the reason why I think he'll finish this season with a QB rating over 90.
     
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    Where did you get Newton was a four year starter?

    Those were interceptions in the end zone, but not thrown from the red zone.
     
  14. Montana

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    Very good point, that was an oversight on my part.....and one I loath making, because I think playoff #'s should be included in any such analysis.

    That said, I am too lazy to tally all the comparable QB's playoff totals into their totals to view the impact of when they broke 1,600.

    I suspect the only difference would be a handful of the QB's I listed, would have reached 1,600 a year earlier, and thus in all likelihood have a lower QB rating than the one I listed for them.
     
  15. NDmick

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    Good job on the analysis.

    I agree that he's on his way to having those horrific games fade away to becoming oddities, rather than them being this waiting-to-happen occurrences once a month.
     
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    He may never become a Drew Brees or Philip Rivers but I don't think people can really say he is a liability out there anymore. I think he's actually done a pretty good job this year and gets a lot more flack from people than is deserved.
     
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    We can only hope he doesn't become a Philip Rivers.
     
  18. NDmick

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    And that's not his style of play or the philosophy of this team. So his number will never match theirs.

    But I like that, due to to the fact that it makes the Jets play a balanced game of football.

    I personally don't like the new NFL. I want the old NFL back where running games meant something, and the idea of outscoring everyone is how you win. Its ridiculous.


    Here's to old school football.
     
  19. Montana

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    Statistically Eli Manning is the most logical comparison for who Sanchez' career could mirror.....that said, from his style of play (throwing motion/play action pass/mobility/leadership) he far and away seems like a Drew Brees clone.


    Whether he's ever able to achieve that kind of ceiling Brees has, will depend on Mark's development, and the kinds of offences he's a part of in the future......but the potential is definitely there, imo.
     
  20. Montana

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    He's currently on a 26 TD 14 INT pace.......so you may not need to wait till year 5.
     

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