Curious to see what everyone would give out for grades, from A+ to F. QB: B I am happy with his TD:INT ratio. He's made some poor decisions so far but I think his good ones far outweigh the bad ones. A bunch of rushed throws that were inaccurate but can''t blame him fully considering how often he was getting cracked early in the season. RB: C+ Obviously our rushing yards are nowhere near where we want them to be. LT isn't producing much but I like that there sticking with the notion of saving him for the end of the season. That will be a wise move. Greene struggled early, but as the o-line looks better, he looks better. No surprise to me. We started with an F here so let's consider this a big improvement. WR: B It looks like dropping Mason was the right move. The trade-off of slow veteran to rookie with speed gives us a dimension we did not have. Holmes looks like Holmes and Plax seems to be coming around. Expecting these guys to win us some games with big plays moving forward. TE: B+ Would've given a flat out A, but Keller has to be a little more sure handed and could improve his run blocking. Love the big pass plays. We need to keep this a constant. Mulligan bring the grade down a little. Not sure if my grade is accurate for him but as a blocking specialist, he doesn't seem to be doing his job well enough. Also, a few penalties by a guy that isn't on the field full time is very aggravating. O-Line: C+ Started poorly, went to disgustingly pitiful, to average. We're in the middle of an increase in play by this unit and the ceiling is a lot higher, IMO. Hunter was scary to start the season, but has shown vast improvement each week. The bye week should heal up Mangold and get him back to top form. As we all know, he is essential for our success. This unit needs to become our strong point if we want to be a contender. D-Line: B- Considering the youth we're looking at here, things could be worse. Yes, we are struggling against the run, but I don't put all of the blame on them (see LB's) See some promise for this group in the future. They're doing decent against the pass, but we need to learn how to hold our ground on the edge. With Devito getting healthier and more experience each week I see this unit on the incline. LB's: C This is manily because of the run defense. Considering that this was considered one of the strengths of our team, this has been a major dissapointment. Thomas going down has a huge impact. Our backups are capable, but will not become all stars overnight. Scott and Harris have to be a bigger presence and show us that they can still tackle in space. Pace gets a passing grade. Mauga has been OK, Westerman has got to be more physical. If Maybin can keep up the QB chaos he will get an A and be the biggest shock the NFL has seen in a while. BIGGEST CONCERN: can we stop the run? CB's: A- Would be an A+ if Cro was'nt so damn inconsistent. Although he has looked better as of recent. We all know he needs to be more physical. Revis = defenseive player of the year. WIlson has been such a bright spot. There are long spots where you don't even notice him on the field, until he makes a nice tackle or his 1st pick. Awesome job by him, looks like revis is a great tutor. SF's: C+ If it wasn't for outstanding CB play, these guys would be struggling even more. There has been some timely tackles by both Jimmy and Smith. But there has also been some bad missed tackles. They are very often in bad position against the pass and Smith definitely lacks the speed to cover. Also, Pool has been MIA. Though we would see him on the field as a rotational guy a lot more, he must have regressed somehow. Smith would be a great fill-in safety and a situational run-stopper. But he should not be an every down safety. Bad decision but we're going to have to make it work. ST's: A As always, our special teams are a bright spot. Folk has been great, Conley has gotten better. McKnight and Kerley both impress. We need to stop taking penalties on punt returns though. Seems to be a league-wide thing, however. Every time I see a punt there is a penalty it seems like. Final thoughts: As everyone knows, stopping the run is the biggest issue. Our CB play will hold off big games through the air. Offense is on its way up. I remain optimistic as to where this team is heading. It's going to come down to a few nailbiters as always though. Please share your thoughts and I would like to see every one elses grades.
QB: B - (Has thrown fewer INTs, but they were the kind that makes you scratch your head and think...what the fuck? Still can't carry the team on his back but shows steady signs of improvement.) RB: C (No holes to run through, but this unit still hasn't produced much at all.) WR: C+ (Burress as a bust all season until last week. Holmes has been slightly disappointing, Mason is washed up. At least Kerley looks promising.) TE: B- (Why does Keller tease us by coming out the gate strong, then goes dormant about 4 games in?) O-Line: D+ (Moore isn't playing like himself, Mangold was/is hurt, Slauson is average, Sanchez is getting hit way too often. D-Line: B - (MoWilk looks to be learning quick, but outside of the safety he's been quiet. Pouha is solid but nothing spectacular.) LB's: C (Where the fuck is Bart Scott?? The unit is not doing well against the run, but they are getting better at coverage.) CB's: B+ (Cromartie is too inconsistent and kills the team with penalties,. Revis hung up on Francessa so he got plenty of style points there.) SF's: C (Fuck you, Eric Smith. Still haven't seen a big play by Leonhard) ST's: A (Folk is perfect this year, Cro/McKnight are giving the Jets great field postion, Conley reminds me of my appetite after chinese food; unsatisfied) Final thoughts: Fuck Eric Smith.
How can you guys give the D-Line a B- and give them a higher grade then the linebackers? The MAIN problem is that our D-Line is so slow and mediocre that other teams don't have to double team anyone and they are sending offensive-lineman to directly punish Scott and Harris instead of letting them roam free. Meanwhile the D-Line creates absolutely ZERO pass rush. I repeat ZERO. Our only pass rush comes from Maybin, Pace, or Scott and Harris on blitzes. AKA our linebackers.
D Line running backs and safeties grades need to be lower. Running game was awful for 5 weeks Id give them a D or D+ since they are starting to do better. Safeties have been pretty awful with lack of big plays bad tackling and blown coverages. D Line really hasn't been anything special as we are getting run all over and aren't making any room for our LBs. I like our D line and think WIlkerson will be good in the future but I would not call them above average at all.
So you are saying the pass rush in the Jets hybrid 3-4 comes from the LB's only. You have stumbled on an interesting concept. Hmmmm
After all these years you'd think the concept of a 3-4 defense wouldn't fly over people's heads but somehow it still does.
a 3-4 defense can only work if the linebackers are gonna step up, push ppl around, and make most of the tackles... and thats not happening
And Shaun Ellis didn't get pressure on the QB when he played in the 3-4. You guys crack me up. Neither does Ngata.
i dunno about you but i didnt expect any of our D-lineman to rush like ellis or ngata this year...so i dont think theyre performance has been a huge dissapointment in that department... give mo-wilk some time and i think he'll be there... as for the rest of the group they're ceilings arent too high
I'd go B+ at QB and C-/D on the offensive line. We've had a couple of games now where the offensive line played well enough to win the game and in the other wins the opposition has bailed us out by wanting to lose the game more than we did. Sanchez has played very well given that he has been behind a below average line for 5 of the 7 games. I'm not even sure it's an average line now. The Dolphins were no competition and the Chargers game could be a fluke. I know the other 5 games ranged from below average to horrible. You give Sanchez offensive line this season to Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Bills are 1-5 right now.
This post is borderline absurd. Ellis's "pass rush" were mainly coverage sacks. How many 3-4 ends provide any sort of reliable pass rush? In the last ten years I can count them on one hand. The 3-4 sacks by the Jets front 3 I am willing to bet isn't that far off from what Ellis, Pouha, and Devotion had at this point last year. Every year it's the same nonsense since the Jets started playing the 3-4 " omg the dline doesn't provide a pass rush." Wonder why.
I probably didn't make my point clear enough but my main gripe is not about the pass rushing of the lineman. It's that they are slow, lethargic, don't shed blocks, and don't make plays. Devito's fat ass missing three tackles on BJGE.
That is different and totally with merit. I will say that Wilkerson shows plenty of ability to knife thru and make plays. He is a rookie and obviously very inconsistent. Devito is what he is, a stout plugger type guy. He is not the standout athletic type. If the jets can get this rotation going he is a prime 1-2 down DL. He is somewhat underrated though. He is a good run stopper, gap filler. Pouha is a very similar description to Devito. When Ellis starts to get up to speed he is a much more dynamic athlete than Pouha but not anywhere close technique wise.
Jets sacks by defensive lineman - 3 49ers sacks by defensive lineman - 7.5 Redskins - 11 Ravens - 6.5 Texans - 10 Cowboys - 4 Packers - 5 Steelers - 4 Even the lowly Patriots have more then us. This doesn't take into account QB Hurries. Which I'm positive the Jets lineman are ranked dead last in while these teams have much more.
Patriots play a 4-3 now most of the time. The Jets have 4 btw............ Which puts them right where you expect them to be, in the mix with the other classical 3-4 teams and below the Ravens who have......wait for it........wait for it....... Ngata. BTW the Texans have Antonio Smith who is having an exceptional year for a DE with 5 sacks.... So skipping the fact you chopped one sack off the Jets to make an argument look better, (I didn't check any of the other #'s which maybe inflated will do later) and still shows a lack of understanding of a 3-4, who cares.
