Mark Sanchez vs Josh Freeman

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  1. 624

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    This is true, it's funny to look on opposing team's boards game threads about the Jets. 90% of the posts are always "their defense is pretty good, sanchez sucks tho lolol guaranteed 4 interceptions"


    People are clueless and rely too much on highlights and ESPN
     
  2. James Calvin

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    Which active NFL QB has the best career W/L percentage vs. the Patriots?

    /softball question
     
  3. ScotsJet

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    Colt McCoy?
     
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    Trent Dilfer. He is active in my heart.
     
  5. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Anybody who thinks the Jets defense and team "carried" Sanchez to those playoff wins did not watch those games. In his 6 playoff games, Sanchez was 95 of 157 which is a 60.5% completion percentage. He threw for 1145 yards. He has 9 TDs and 3 Ints and 1 lost fumble (which was a questionable call in the Pittsburgh game). His passer rating is 94.

    Even though these numbers are compiled in a small sampling, the qualitative numbers are comparable to some of the best QBs in the game today and in some ways are superior. Compare his playoff career stats to those of Brady, Roethllisberger, Manning, Rivers, Brees, McNabb, etc.

    Sanchez may have had some difficult regular season games, but when you look at his record and play in playoff games and the 5 wins the Jets had last year when Sanchez brought the Jets from behind late in games or in OT, it is clear he is clutch and is a winner.

    Any Jets fan that just want to look at his regular season completion percentage or the occasional bad game he has and who wants to compare regular season stats to QBs like Freeman should study the game some or root for another team. Give me a QB who wins rather than one who puts up style points in October but can't buy a win in December or January. We have had plenty of QBs like that in the past - Todd, O'Brien and Pennington come to mind.
     
  6. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    great post.

    unfortunately, people are not capable of thinking rationally.

    everyone who's not a jets fan just WANTS sanchez to suck, so they cherry pick the shit games he's had and act like that's who he is as a quarterback.
     
  7. New England Patriots

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    It's the same way that you are blinded by the fact that he was the #5 overall pick. Let's not cherry pick games, let's just look at the facts: He averages 194 yards per playoff game. See, no cherry picking. He hasn't pulled the team to victory, he has managed the games by not screwing up. It's a lot different situation than Manning or Rivers who are expected to propel their teams to victory. I'm not personally saying that he sucks, I'm saying he has been a solid game manager in his 6 playoff games, but absolutely nothing more than that. I'm sorry that it tweaks you the wrong way, but I can't help you with that.
     
  8. LoyalJetsFan

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    You fucking clown. Go Jerk off to Tom Brady wearing nothing but UGGS.

    Your ass still hurting from last year's playoff game?

    Since when do yards define weather a QB is good in the playoffs?

    How about these stats:
    9 TD
    3 IN
    94.3 QB Rating

    You cherry picking faggot.
     
  9. fozzi58

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    [​IMG]

    Take it down a couple notches - we are having a discussion.
     
  10. LoyalJetsFan

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    I would never react that way to a Jets fan...but fuck patsies fans. Once Tom Brady is gone, we'll never see them on this board again.
     
  11. fozzi58

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    Anyone can pick out stats and spin it anyway they like based on their point of view or how they want it to sound.

    So what that Sanchez was the 5th overall pick and average 194yds per playoff game? If the Jets have a strong running game, why not use that to set up the pass. If the Pats had a strong running game, don't you think they would use that to ease up the pressure on Brady?

    His record is 4-2 in the PO's. That's pretty good for a 2 year stretch. How are Akili Smith, Ryan Leafs, & Jamarcus Russell's playoff records? Oh wait.

    See I can do it too.

    I don't play fantasy football anymore cause it skewed my vision of what counts most - W's. I really don't care if Sanchez throws for less than 200 yds a game. I don't care if he ever throws a TD ever again.

    But if his passes are timely, and move the chains when needed most, and the team gets the W, then thats fine with me.
     
  12. nyjunc

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    Maybe that's Rivers and manning's problem? They THINK they have to do everything and thus they choke, it's not about yards it's about making plays. if you look at Rivers #s against us in the '09 div rd it looks like he played much better but in reality he didn't. Rivers cost SD the game and Sanchez made plays to win.

    There is value in QBs who do not make the big mistake in January, you don't have to throw for 300 yds and have a great rating to have a great game.
     
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    Not cherry picking but I'm gonna pick out the least impressive stat and make an entire post on that one stat.

    Reminds me of when tonyiommi prefaces a post with 'not trolling but i'm gonna make an asinine troll comment'.
     
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    I will Occupy TGG to protest your ban.
     
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    Big Ben in the AFC title game is the perfect example. Put up pretty dismal numbers but made plays when it counted most.
     
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    Absolutely, I can't tell you how many times I have heard how Bad ben was- those people didn't watch the game or don't understand the game. ben won that game for Pitt despite the lousy #s.
     
  17. New England Patriots

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    If you're unable to control your emotions, maybe you should just go back to watching Oprah and Dr. Phil. Get control of yourself big boy.

    Agreed. My point is more that it wasn't dominating Sanchez performances that won them the game. The reason we are discussing all of this was that one poster said that he wouldn't take Rivers over Sanchez right now. Sanchez and Rivers are at completely different places. The Chargers rely on Rivers to win games, the Jets rely on Sanchez not to lose them.

    1.5 touchdowns a game? I'm not saying he is a bad quarterback, I'm just saying that the reliance on Sanchez isn't as great as it is on Rivers, and as such the amount of post season success credited to Sanchez must be reduced. I'm sure if Rivers had to manage the game instead of throwing for the win, his QB rating would be higher and his INT's would be lower. Additionally, his yards and TD's would be lower, like Sanchez.
     
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    Have to completely agree with both statements. He posted a 33QBR, 2 INTs (i think) and won that game on the last play for the team despite his poor play all game long.

    That was great play by a QB when it mattered most. His stats during that game aren't worth half a shit and yet he won it for them.
     
  19. ace_o_spades

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    In 2006 against your New England Patriots Rivers was 14-32 230 yards 0 TD 1 INT. LT had 23 carries 123 yards 2 TDs.
     
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