Mark Sanchez vs Josh Freeman

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  1. tommytom

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    You are not qualified to tell someone that they 'do not understand football'.
     
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    He is barely qualified to stand up and pee.
     
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    I can't wait until tommytom is banned for trolling.
     
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    In Rex Ryan's book they went to see workouts of both Sanchez and Freeman. Ryan said only 2 WR's showed up for Freeman while about 23 WR's showed up for Sanchez. That was an example of what they saw in Sanchez's leadership capabilities and as a person what they wanted as a leader QB for their football team.
     
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    I'm not overreacting because of Freeman's poor play last week. I've never understood the hype this kid's received.

    At Kansas State, he put up good numbers against weak competition and struggled against good teams. I know he wasn't exactly surrounded by great players at K-State, but great players carry teams. He hasn't shown that ability at any level.

    The same things are happening again at the pro level. He never won at the college level and he's not winning in the NFL. He continues to do well against shitty teams and struggle against the good ones.

    The surrounding cast excuse may have worked when he was at Kansas State, but what now? He has an excellent offensive line, talented young receivers, and one of the best receiving tight ends in the league. LeGarrette Blount isn't a bad player to hand the ball to either.

    At Kansas State, he played in an offense that was simplified for him. Now, Tampa's offensive coordinator is afraid to open things up, because he's afraid Freeman won't take care of the football. He's making horrible reads and that's leading to turnovers.

    His inaccuracy will cripple him, but his inability to win games will always hold him back.
     
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    So can we conclude if Sanchez was on the Bucs the Bucs would have carried the team to 2 championship games.
     
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    so if Sanchez was on the Bucs would he carry the Bucs to an elite level?
     
  9. Mr Electric

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    I wouldn't necessarily say that Matthew Stafford is better than Mark Sanchez.

    He is definitely the most physically gifted player of the three, but if you can't stay on the field, your physical ability doesn't matter.

    Stafford's accuracy is inconsistent just like Sanchez's and Freeman's, but he has an incredibly strong arm. With a wideout like Calvin Johnson, that's a great attribute to have. A deep ball doesn't have to be perfectly thrown for Megatron to go get it.

    I'll take a tough-as-nails, inconsistently accurate quarterback with ice in his veins any day of the week. Sanchez is a gamer and in this league, that's what you have to be.
     
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    I'll counter you with this: If Freeman was a New York Jet, would he win close games and be a clutch player in the playoffs?
     
  11. tommytom

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    With our defense maybe as even Trent Dilfer may be able to win when you have a great d. How did Sanchez play last year against the Colts? Is a 62.4 qb rating not applicable or do we just ignore it.

    But why not answer my queston first.
     
  12. Mr Electric

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    A veteran quarterback Trent Dilfer is better than Josh Freeman. Trent Dilfer can make logical decisions and read a defense. Plus, that Ravens' defense was one of the best all-time. Don't compare our defense to that one. It's not a fair comparison.

    Josh Freeman is not a game manager.

    I fed you another hypothetical question. You asked me something that we'll never know the answer to, so I returned the favor.

    Mark Sanchez managed the game against the Colts and led a hell of a drive to get us into field goal range. He put us in a position to win the game and Nick Folk finished the job.

    I don't give a shit what his QB rating was. He protected the football and kept his team in the game. He had ice in his veins in that game and he showed up when it mattered most.

    He had a 127.3 rating against the Patriots the next week. Is that applicable or do you just ignore it?

    I'll be here all day.
     
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    So qb ratings only matter when he plays well. I get it and you never answered my question.
     
  14. tommytom

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    you must watch a lot of games. How often do you watch Tampa play?
     
  15. Mr Electric

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    QB ratings don't matter if you win.

    I already fucking explained to you that there's no reasonable answer to your stupid, hypothetical question.

    Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman will never, ever switch teams. There's no way to answer that retarded question that you think is so important.
     
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    When I lived in Charlotte, I watched plenty of the NFC South.

    Josh Freeman is incredibly inconsistent.

    I also watched him play when he was at Kansas State and I thought he was a mediocre quarterback. Let me do some digging and I'll find some of things I said about him back in 2009.
     
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    As promised:

     
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    So all Dan Marino's accomplishments do not matter. Sure winner keep cursing. This just in Mark Sanchez superior to Dan Marino. LMAO you are funny.
     
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    dood dilfer is betta then marino
     
  20. Mr Electric

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    Where did I say Dan Marino's stats don't matter? I didn't. He deserves the Hall of Fame because he was a great player, but I guaran-fuckin'-tee you that Marino would trade all of his passing stats for a Super Bowl ring.

    Years from now, when quarterbacks start to pass him on these lists, he will become irrelevant to the new generation of fans. He will not be an immortal great because he doesn't have a championship.

    Stats and records were made to be broken. Championships are forever.

    Fans my age and older will always see Dan Marino as one of the best ever. That will fade eventually.
     
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