It's on the record in this and other threads that I believe the Jets will get to 10-6 so long as they a) sweep the scrubs, b) sweep Miami, c) split with Buffalo, d) go .500 against the better teams. I am objectively pointing out two things tonight, don't exactly understand the overreaction: 1. The '09 and '10 Jets were humiliated in back-to-back AFC Championship Games where our D and O inexplicably fell asleep for half of each game. 2. I don't trust the '11 Jets yet because as big as the Chargers win was, we've seen past Ryan Jets teams compete badly against inferior teams, play inconsistently on various facets of the game, and play poorly after a bye. Those are facts. It's not SOJF to be suspicious of a team that was 3-0 and then 0-3 and then 1-0. It's quite realistic. SAR I
Mick never said anything of the sort. Hell he knows that most Jets fans still have the SOJF mentality. Those guys are the idiots without the balls. They don't believe in this team, this staff, and in the Jets organization. This team is trending upwards (not only this season, but as a franchise) They are becoming respectable in all aspects. Yet everytime theres a setback of any kind, people come flying out of the woodwork screaming SOJ, SOJ!!!! This regime is all about confidence, if you don't have any then why the hell bother following the team? you don't like the bravado? go be a Pats fan. You pissed we havent won a ring in 41 years? Us too. We believe in Rex, we believe in the Jets. Do we think we are 16-0 good and superbowl bound? Hell no. We believe this team is a second half team. Not just the second half of games, but the second half of the season. I can feel it, we are about to get hot, and it's going to lead to a midseason run, I expect that run will be something in the neighborhood of 5-1. Then somewhere along the way, we will lose a game we shouldnt have. Fans everywhere will be screaming seasons over. But i'll know, we will straighten it out, and make the playoffs, somehow someway. Once we are in, this organization has more confidence in themselves than anybody else in the league, except maybe the Packers. Once we are in, we legitimately believe we are going all the way. I am right there with them. Thats what this is about. It's not homerism, its belief, its confidence. You aren't a realist, you are a skeptic, a man without belief in this team. You want to win, you just refuse to believe the team can get itself straightened out, and make a run at this thing.
Ah, Skeptics. Adjusted poll results from real-world data: 10% SOJF's 80% Realists/Skeptics 10% Blind Homers There's no way for a Realist to look at the body of work that is the Rex Ryan Jets and be anything but a skeptic. The very definition of what this team has done in the regular season leads to skepticism. If we were in the playoffs, I'd be drinking the type of Kool Aid you seem to expect from everyone. Why? Because we're a fantastic playoff team. Rex Ryan is Playoff Jesus. But it's the regular season. Different story, different expectations, different point of view. SAR I
I'm with you on '10, but what about our '09 loss was inexplicable? Thomas Jones was out of gas at the end of the season, Greene got hurt and came out. No running game, Colts sold out against the pass and Mark couldn't do anything about it. Strickland got hurt and left the game, and Drew Coleman played like Drew Coleman, allowing Manning to pass at will.
My expectation was that with a 17 point lead a Rex Ryan defense would figure out a way to keep it close, create some turnovers, give our admittedly weakened offense a few short fields or a few points. SAR I
Yeah i can see how Rex proving he is the best coach, other than Weeb, we have ever had in just 2.5 seasons would give you cause for concern. Rex took over a team that was lacking in balls, and turned it into a team that snuck into the playoffs, and went on to take down two heavily favored teams on the road. Who the hell has it as their sig? In 2008 the Jets had like the 26 ranked defense, and in 2009, Rex had the #1 defense. He drafted a new franchise QB, who has led 6th fourth quarter comebacks, and he's done it in the postseason (see Indy last year). He has won the games when its mattered most. Rex has given us a fighting chance against the Patriots, we are .500 against them, counting the postseason. About the only thing you can hold against him right now, is his lack of winning a game after they bye week, which I think changes this year. What do you want Rex to do, that he hasnt yet done that will change your tune? Because he has accomplished more in 2 years than the majority of our coaches combined. I just don't get it edit: Also, would like to mention, that Rex has always righted the ship. When the team appears to be in crisis mode, he has found a way to fix it, and win the next game.
nyjetsrule Yeah i can see how Rex proving he is the best coach, other than Weeb, we have ever had in just 2.5 seasons would give you cause for concern. First off, nice to meet you. Rex Ryan is a Playoff God. If it were January and we were talking about a first round playoff game, I'd be here with bells on, drinking the Kool Aid, very confident in a dominant win. It's not the playoffs. It's the regular season. Rex Ryan's regular season record averages to 10-6 and a wildcard appearance. Not bad. But dig deeper and many of those wins were fantastic comebacks against inferior teams that we had no business trailing against to begin with. When you live that close to the edge with such a small margin of error, eventually it catches up to you. The Oakland game is a great example. Last year, we win that game. Rex took over a team that was lacking in balls, and turned it into a team that snuck into the playoffs, and went on to take down two heavily favored teams on the road. Whoa there, jetsrule. Rex Ryan inherited an 8-3 team that was a Brett Favre meltdown from the #2 seed. All the major components of the '09 team were already in place before he got here. Again, agree completely that he's a Playoff God. Begs the question- if the team is good enough to win 4 damn playoff games on the road in the postseason, why do they only eke out wildcards? Why do they sit at 1-3 in their last 4 games? What's the problem in the regular season? In 2008 the Jets had like the 26 ranked defense, and in 2009, Rex had the #1 defense. He drafted a new franchise QB, who has led 6th fourth quarter comebacks, and he's done it in the postseason (see Indy last year). In the regular season, 4 of those 4th quarter comebacks were against the worst teams in the NFL. But the same man who brought you those miracle offensive finishes is responsible for the defensive complacency too. We never should have needed 2 minute heroics against Denver, Detroit, Cleveland, and Houston. He has won the games when its mattered most. Rex has given us a fighting chance against the Patriots, we are .500 against them, counting the postseason. About the only thing you can hold against him right now, is his lack of winning a game after they bye week, which I think changes this year. In 2009, the Ryan Jets had a 1-6 streak. In 2010, the Ryan Jets had a 1-3 streak in December. In 2011, the Ryan Jets had an 0-3 streak. The Patriots don't do this. That's why they win the division each year, something the team itself admitted it needed to do. Was the top priority of the year. Win the division, get home playoff games. There's a way to get to the Super Bowl with just 2 postseason wins. That was this years goal. What do you want Rex to do, that he hasnt yet done that will change your tune? Because he has accomplished more in 2 years than the majority of our coaches combined. I just don't get it What I am trying to figure out (along with almost the entire rest of the NFL world): Is Rex Ryan pushing a mediocre Jets roster to fantastic glory via exemplary postseason coaching... ...or... Is Rex Ryan tanking a fantastic Jets roster to confounding depths via lousy regular season coaching? It's one or the other. We can't have our cake and eat it too. If the Jets are tremendous in the postseason, why are they so inconsistent and maddening during the regular season? Is Ryan a great coach with a roster of crap or a mediocre coach with a roster full of stars? edit: Also, would like to mention, that Rex has always righted the ship. When the team appears to be in crisis mode, he has found a way to fix it, and win the next game. Yes, but he's done it via Jedi mind tricks. These are professional athletes, not college kids. As each year and each game goes by, it gets harder and harder to motivate with words and wigs. SAR I
PLEASE explain to me how "I expect us to get blown out." is not negative you idiot?? I really want an explanation. I'm a STH as well (drive 3 and half hours each way, and guess what NOT in a BMW) and watch every game not only at the stadium but the DVR after as well. I know this team as well as almost anyone on this board. I know we are very good at some things and need to work at others. I can adequately assess our teams chances of wining on a given week. You, on the other hand, are a pessimistic "SOJ" piece of garbage. If you didn't have a random assortment of Jets coaches in your profile I would readily assume you were a Patsfans.com cast off looking for a new home. Speaking of them, they'd LOVE you there because all they ever do is doubt the Jets. If you said, "hey guys I'm worried about our run offense" people would respect you, however your baseless, anecdotal, gloom and doom posts bring NOTHING to this board.
And buzz off. I am about as much as a "fellow Jets fan" to you as am I a "fellow member of the Bolivian National Guard". Do not try to even associate yourself with me.
I think we all felt that way to an extent, but there was just no way our remaining CB personnel stood a chance. Having Revis is great but it didn't mean anything because we didn't have the depth to match up with Wayne/Garcon/Collie/Clark. There's a reason we went out and traded for Cro and drafted Wilson in the first round in the following offseason.
I'll get used to nothing. To you it's "stupid crap" because it's something you don't want to hear. Mets fans always think they're headed in the right direction before they go 66-95, act all hurt and disappointed because they couldn't see what was blatantly obvious to everyone else before the season started. SAR I
That's narrowminded how you are starting your expectations with the 17-0 lead already. Start it from the beginning of the game, and consider the circumstances. (rookie qb, @ Hall of Fame QB, injuries, etc..)
So I've known you for one week. In that week you predicted the jets to be "blown out" by the chargers. I told you that was silly to expect that. In our relationship, my tract record is much better then yours.
