That's like the rationale by college football people about every game being like a playoff game but just like in CFB they played a ton of easy games. There was ONE team w/ a winning record in our division- that was the Jets. They played 3 of their 14 games against teams w/ winning records- then needed to win one home playoff game to get tot he SB. Tbey didn't have a rough road. Obviously the talented is more diluted BUT there are more talented players than ever before due to training, nutriton, kids learning the game at younger ages,... '67 we didn't make the playoffs, it was like '08 where we looked like a lock at 7-2-1 then lost 3 of 4 to choke our way out of a playoff berth(w/ our "great" QB throwing 9 INTs in those 3 losses- very favre like). '69 was a good season but losing your playoff game at home is a disappointment no matter how good KC was. We have had a sustained level of success the last decade that we have never seen before. 1960-2000(41 seasons): 8 playoff apps, 6 playoff wins 2001-2010(10 seasons): 6 playoff apps, 6 playof wins I like the ratio of playoff apps and wins the last decade rather than the first 4 decades. I'm not debating what our best year was, just devating the best era and I believe it's this one w/ sustained succes rather than a brief 2 year run in the 60s. Who cares if we were underdogs, the '68 team was an underdog in both playoff games and won an easy division- does that take away anything? we were on the doorstep of the SB the last 2 years, the ONLY team in the league to advance that far in both years. In '02 we had a shot, in '04 we were a missed kick from the title game. We have had sustained success here for the first time in our history. The Colts have made just 3 title games in all those playoff apps. Not our best player in history but our most important.
As one of the posters who has sat through a lot of futility, I have to agree with junc. I understand what Murrell is getting at, but I can only speak for what I've lived through, and at the age of 34, the last 2 years have been great and a lot of our newer fans are pretty damned spoiled. Hell, even the year with Favre was great until after Thanksgiving, obviously. Freak WC in '06 makes the last 5 years pretty good, for our standards. The one thing I definitely agree with Murrell on is that we won the big one in Jan. '69, which we didn't do either of the past two years, so, if we're speaking of franchise history, not my personal history, then '67-'69 probably gets the prize. Unless, of course, we get our heads out of our asses this season and somehow end up in Indy.
I'm not kidding at all. Richard Todd to Mickey Shuler against Rex's defense all fucking day. They haven't stopped a tight end in two years. Jets O line would have gotten him a ton of time against Rex's mighty pass rush. Mark Sanchez vs. the sack exchange? Who's joshing who? I don't think you youngsters take enough drugs.
Shuler wasn't the starting TE on those teams, it was jerome Barkum. he was only showing flashes around that time. Richard Todd was an INT machine, you think revis would have problems w/ Walker? Freeman would have posed a problem but he was always hurt. we lost to Joe Ferguson and David Woodley in '81 and '82, Sanchez is better than those 2 and would have had problems w/ that rush but would have been ok. Remember, the great pass rush year was really only '81 as in '82 Klecko was hurt.
Meh, I'm not going to argue with you you were probably 4 years old at the time. Those Jets had the capacity to dominate any game. They obviously didn't always do it, but it was their. This team can't get a first down against the Dolphins for a quarter and a half.
In college they don’t play every team. The Jets played every AFL team and were 5-1 against teams w/ a .500 record or better not including the postseason. Rosters were smaller and there were less teams. The talent pool was much less diluted in the 60’s than it is today which means the level of competition was much higher in comparison back then. 1967 was the year we turned the corner. Yes, we collapsed down the stretch but this was the first legitimate contender we had. 1969 was a great season where we won our 2nd division title. The brief 2 year run we had gave us 2 division championships and a SB title. In the past 40 years we have only had 2 division titles and zero SB Titles. Like I said, I get what you are saying. And you’re right that we have never had this amount of sustained success. But being that 1968 is our only championship and that 1969 we won the division, that’s the greatest era in Franchise History. Now, if we can win a SB title that changes everything.
I was young but I have a great memory, I probably thought they were better than they were at the time. It's nice to point out a bad game but we whipped the Pats in their building in the div rd- at Cincy and oak were great wins but nothing like that Pats win and I can find a ton of awful performances from those early 80s teams- the Seattle games, the Chiefs game which cost them a seed in '82, losing 38-10 to Pitt, 31-0 to Buf, ...
every AFL team and only faced 3 teams w/ winning records, that's a pretty asy sched and they lost to a team that won one game the entire season. I'm not debating '68-'69 were great years but it was brief, we have seen sustained success the last decade which we didn't see in the 60s. I don't consider an era 2 years though, you want to say that was our best 2 year stretch? simply b/c of the SB title I guess you'd be right but again we played one playoff game at home, we won 2 playoff games in those 2 years and the last 2 we won 4.
They were 5-1 against teams who were .500 or better then defeated two teams who only lost 3 games combined all year. The sustained success we have had over the last decade does not include a Championship. The last decade we won one division title and were fortunate to have Wildcards. They didn’t have Wildcards in 1967 but if they did we would have been the WC team (due to a head to head win vs. the Chargers). Comparing the two types of playoffs is like Apples and Oranges. We now have Wildcards, more rounds than there were in the 60’s. Again, I understand what you are saying and don’t disagree that this is an exciting time to be a Jets fan, but without a Championship it ranks below the SB championship era.
Is beating a .500 team a big deal? They faced just 3 teams over .500, they lost to a team that ended up w/ 1 win, they lost to another team that ended up w/ 5 wins. I don't consider that era to be a championship era, it was one year which is the greatest in our history but what efery team wants each year is to be a title contender, to have hope you are making the playoffs. We have had that most of the last decade while we had it for 2 years in the 60s.
What I believe are the top 10 seasons in Jets history. 1. 1968- no explanation needed 2. 1998- our most complete season outside of '68 3. 2010- the closest we have been to the SB since '68 4. 1982- if this wasn't strike shortened season it may be higher 5. 2009- had 2nd half lead in title game 6. 1969- 2nd of only 4 div titles 7. 1981- 1st playoff app in 12 years 8. 2002- last div title 9. 2004- missed kick from title game 10. 1985- 2nd most wins in franchise history
