I present facts and you think I'm "twisting" them? Go away. I discredit your ignorance by giving evidence of LT saying the scheme is predictable, which is similar to what Holmes and Mason have done and you're rebuttal is I'm twisting things up. Leave this analyst thing to the men. We'll tell you how to think. Knit me a sweater.
The scheme sucks, the receivers drop passes, the o-line can't block, the running backs go down on first contact, and Sanchez still makes curious decisions from time to time. The problem is that everyone needs to be accountable, not just for their job, but for everyone else too. The Jets seem to have a me-first, it's not my fault mentality this year. I can understand each player having certain issues with the game plan or other players' performances, but keep it behind closed doors. We don't need to see publicly who sides with Schottenheimer and who doesn't. Obviously we're dealing with substantial egos here, but the first thing this team should teach is checking egos at the door. I don't mind the chirping, but keep it directed outward and use that as a way of coming together rather than trying to tear the team apart. My personal preference would be to upgrade at OC and see where that takes us. But with who? Unless there's a legit upgrade out there, ride with what we have and encourage him to take some chances with his game plan because he's certainly not anyone's favorite OC right now.
Know your personnel, and put them in positions that will help them succeed so they can do what they do best: Sanchez - deep throws, can throw the out route/ corner route, PA, rollouts Holmes - Slants, double moves for corner routes, fades and gos Plax - jump balls, fades, corner routes Keller - out, seam, across the field on a sanchez roll out OL - run blocking to gain confidence, then pass pro Greene - down hill running, bruising defenses, off tackle LT - off tackle, catching screens, quick outs, check down over the middle That's what they do best.
Except LDT already said the defense knows whether the Jets are running or not based on formations :rofl:
haha of course. i didnt see that beauty coming. i feel like i am talking to nyjunc about herm edwards. tomlinson said.... By Rich Cimini LaDainian Tomlinson introduced a new theory on why the Jets' vaunted ground game is sputtering: He believes their plays and schemes might be predictable. "I think people have scouted us well," Tomlinson said Thursday. "There are different plays where they may know the depth of the running back and they'll know, 'Okay, this is what's coming.' We've heard that from people." People? "Some opponents have told us that," he said. "When you talk to guys around the league after the game, like, 'Hey, what's up?' They're like, 'We were looking at your guys' depth. When you're deep, it's a run. When you're close, it's a pass.' Certain things like that. Defenses, they pick up on that stuff." i dont see anywhere in there that he thinks schottenheimer is a problem. for all we know the backs line up where they do because the rb coach wants them to get better angles on certain running plays. he then comes out and says what he said above. pretty straight forward that he is putting the blame on the players and is saying its NOT the OCs fault. a week or two ago santonio and mason and burress supposedly are talking shit about the OC and everyone says oh me oh my santonio is a great leader and team captain and a SUPERBOWL MVP, HE HAS TO BE RIGHT..... there were quite a few people that saw the fact that santonio the great leader and burrress a superbowl winner talking bad about the OC as proof that they were right about how bad schotty is. you cant have it that way and then dismiss the comments from tomlinson. my post was to point out the inconsistency of alot of posters. not necessarily you. but thanks for continuing to tell everyone that they dont know anything about football. cause you are oh so smart about your footballs. taht those that disagree or point out inconsistency must not be football smart men.
btw heres your sweater. ukk i see that at least you understand and see what i was trying to point out.
Yeah, when people see the same thing over 5 seasons it's usually looked at as truth. I even remember Edwards complaining about schitty after the Colts game where he called a horrendous 2nd half :rofl: Same shit different year.
It still doesn't change the fact that defenses call the schemes predictable. it doesn't change the fact that Schotty has issues as a playcaller. And once again, its not just Plax and Holmes. Mason said there were cracks and he was here for 2 months. The coaching is an issue. I know the players aren't doing their job. I also know that Schotty has issues maximizing the talents of his personnel. And I didn't use my "you don't know football" phrase. The truth about all of this lies somewhere in the middle of what the players are saying. And holmes is right - the OL isn't doing their job compared to the standard they're held to. I love how you just want to dismiss what Holmes and Plax said and take LTs side because of who you like on the team. Because you are the standard for judging these players who you don't know. Because when they show an ounce of "thugness" because they grew up in the shittiest areas in the country and show that you dismiss these people as the biggest pieces of shit to ever be born. It says volumes about your judgmental character. The issue isn't football knowledge, its your hatred for any player that isn't a choir boy and speaks out of line. Any time someone gets a little upset or has an ounce of flash you call them an asshole or a douche bag. You have serious issues. Learn to be a little bit more tolerant of people. Mangold, a guy you must like because he's white and isn't flashy, has been Holmes' teammate since college. Seek his comments about Holmes, maybe they'll enlighten you. These are confident men who do things 99% of this world can't. They aren't politically correct, super nice people like you want them to be. Get over it, woman. If LT said it was schotty who was the problem, and holmes said it was the players, I can only imagine what stance you'd be taking right now. You're so transparent its sad.
I think that you think I am arguing any of those points, which I am not. Still funny that Tomlinson says the players share some blame here and everyone wants to disregards it because Holmes threw a fit a few days ago.
Uh we know the players still deserve SOME of the blame but MOST of it goes to Schottenheimer. I mean, people have been bitching about the o-line for weeks, Sanchez, and about how Plax and Mason weren't doing much. SO yes, people have complained about the players.
For some people, no matter how hard you work and how many hours you put in, it doesn't change the fact that you suck.
as you choose to dismiss things that tomlinson says when they dont fit your thoughts. that is the entire point of my post. the fact that santonio holmes is a complete and total moron and piece of shit is pretty irrelevant other than to emphasize the fact that you will find a way to make it fit into your process even if an asshole is saying it. you guys were the ones who made a point of the fact that santonio was a super bowl mvp as if that gave more credence to his thoughts. i dont personally care where he came from, i am glad the kid chose sports over selling drugs. i however will not make excuses for him simply because he is on my favorite football team. i treat him the same as i would if he were on the buffalo bills or miami dolphins. if he is an asshole i wont root for him. and sure as fuck i will not walk around making excuses for him just because he is the best wr on my favorite team. i am sure you would wear the sweater, over your shoulders just like in the picture.
how do you he's an asshole and a piece of shit? do you know him personally? Did he rape your mother? Do you see how ridiculous your opinion of a player is due to a few comments about his team that is playing poorly? Do you now see why I target you on a regular basis? Its sad. Holmes is known as a great teammate regardless of his frustrated comments to the media. Plax is known as a quiet guy who is a great teammate and is actually a great football mind. But you wouldn't know that. You just hate them because they don't seem nice.
haha thanks. Feel free to throw your hat in the ring. Its one thing to not like a player because he sucks. But to call them out on their character is another thing when we have such little info to go on. One player we can all hate? Mark Chmura
if you only knew ndmick. if you only knew. your ignorance is amazing. i know the person he portrays himself as, and that is as an asshole. i dont have to convince you of it, i know its not going to happen because he is one of your jets and taht makes everything he does different from anyone else. i do applaud you for refraining after my outbursts yesterday about the locker room cancer. it had to be eating at you for you to go crazy today. its ok now that you have completely changed the entire topic... rather than realizing you are being inconsistent. just so long as a guy is good, you will stand by him until the cows come home.... or he isnt as good as the next guy anymore, then its off to the scrap heap with him i am sure.
