How can Missouri join a conference that they're already a member in. Unless you meant SEC and not the Big 12.
http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/32536916 TCU chooses to kill Big East goes to Big 12.
I don't know, I will miss the BE and all the ACC-BE back and forth. I assume I'll start hating SU since they will be in the ACC and we have so many SU fans on here(not to mention I work w/ a ton of SU grads).
Yes, I meant SEC of course. So much swapping and rumors it's hard to keep track. BTW never saw this TCU thing happen. I know Frog fans wanted to be as far away from Tex Ass as possible.
SEC's already passed up on WVu along with the ACC. I'm wondering who's getting Mizzou now because it was supposedly us but now it seems the conference may be content with 13. Amazing. I'll be bitch slapping that intern next time I'm near the SEC Offices. I might even drive 300 miles out of my way when I go to the LSU/Ole Miss game next month to do it.
Sounds like BYU is out of the discussion for the Big 12 at least according to some reliable BYU people I know. Apparently the Cougars overplayed their hand and now they've been dumped.
Apparently UCF and ECU are now joining the Big East on Friday. I wonder if they have an out when Louisville, and Uconn walk away. Gotta love it, more programs that don't deserve AQ status but somehow get it. http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2011/10/06/east-carolina-central-florida-next-big-east-members/
Well if that happens they shall forever be known as C-USA+ or Conference USA Plus. They only have 2 football members who were there for 20 years(Rutgers and WVU) and those two are certainly going to bolt ASAP.
Just reeks of desperation. They should just consolidate into a Non-Football Conference and be done with it. Their Basketball conference could still be good as long as they invite St. Josephs and others to replace Cuse, Rutgers, Pitt, WV, etc.
I'm just waiting for the basketball schools to say enough of this. We're not going to lower ourselves to let garbage like ECU into a basketball league. I'm not positive on this but UCF has never made an NCAA Tourney and the last time ECU did they had a losing record and won the Colonial Tournament in 1993. At least TCU brought some football cred and while the bball team wasn't great they did have some success under Billy Tubs. The bball schools could honestly get up and walk out. They'd form a Catholic Conference Gtown Seton Hall Nova Marquette DePaul Providence ND -could still stay independent in football Xavier St Johns St Joes (although two schools in Philadelphia might not be ideal) so you could look at Dayton, St Louis, Fordham as team 10. That would actually be a pretty good league. Definitely some top 25 programs in there and could help schools like Seton Hall and Providence get back on track.
2 articles 1.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/s...an-putting-football-future-in-doubt.html?_r=1 How does T.C.U.’s decision affect Notre Dame? Sometimes amid the realignment frenzy, it is easy to focus on the chum instead of the fish. Notre Dame is one of the biggest fish in college sports, and a destabilized Big East may force its future toward a conference in football. The eyes of administrators around the country are on the Irish athletic director, Jack Swarbrick. “Everyone is waiting for Jack to figure out what he’s going to do,” the Colonial Athletic Association commissioner, Tom Yeager, said. The Irish will not be keen on staying in the Big East if the conference’s football side dissolves. Notre Dame has not entered discussions with the Atlantic Coast Conference or the Big Ten. But as the future of Big East football dims, the possibility of those conferences as landing places increases considerably. The best possibility for Notre Dame is finding a partial landing spot in the A.C.C. That could mean Notre Dame’s basketball and non-revenue sports teams would become full-fledged A.C.C. members. In football, Notre Dame could set up a scheduling agreement with the A.C.C. in which it would play a certain number of the conference teams each season yet keep its football independence. Television executives believe that each Notre Dame game could be worth about $3 million for the league. If Notre Dame did this, UConn, not Rutgers, would round out the A.C.C. as the 16th member. 2. http://news.yahoo.com/ap-source-big...30.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Big East leaders held a conference call Friday to discuss expansion and the expected loss of TCU, but no decisions were made on which schools to invite to the troubled league, two people who took part in the call told The Associated Press. The people spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Friday because the Big East did not want to make any public announcements about internal discussions. The call included Big East Commissioner John Marinatto, as well as university presidents and chancellors and athletic directors. TCU, which was slated to join the Big East in 2012, received an invite to the Big 12 on Thursday. TCU officials have not officially accepted the invite but that seems to be not much more than a formality. Syracuse and Pittsburgh already have announced they are leaving the Big East for the Atlantic Coast Conference. The Big East would be down to six football schools without TCU: West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinnati, South Florida, Rutgers and Connecticut. The Big East's non-football members are DePaul, Marquette, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown, Providence and Notre Dame. Air Force and Navy have been at the top of the Big East's wish list as football-only members, but one of the people who spoke to the AP said those two schools were cautious about joining a league that seems so unsettled. East Carolina has announced that it applied for membership to the Big East, and fellow Conference USA members Central Florida and Memphis have long been looking to join a conference with an automatic bid to the Bowl Championship Series. Temple, which was pushed out of the Big East in 2005 and joined the Mid-American Conference in 2007, also has been mentioned as a possible candidate to rejoin the Big East.
Yeah Memphis deserves a slot at the AQ table, they are one of the few teams in the country that is worse then my alma mater. They are quite possibly the worst team in the country yet they deserve a spot at the table. Since Cal left their basketball team has been average at best and he cheated to get them to a Final 4. They play in a city where nobody cares about the football team but somehow they belong with an AQ slot. The BE is beyond desperate and only desperate schools seem to be interested in jumping onto that sinking ship. TCU hasn't even left the MWC yet and they already jumped off. Air Force and Navy have already told them they'd rather wait for stability because they both know maybe not today, or tomorrow but in the near future regardless of what desperate CUSA school they add the value members of the BE will be looking for a way out. That being said Rutgers better start getting their ducks in order, they've fallen behind the 8 ball. The Big 10 doesn't seem intent on expanding and it now looks like the ACC is going to put a full court press on for Notre Dame. They very well could end up on the outs when this is over if they don't get proactive. At least WVU and Cinci seem to be in the discussion for another league but Uconn gets the nod over Rutgers and Notre Dame trumps both of them. Unless the Big 10 is planning on adding another team Rutgers right now appears to be up a creek.
There seems to be some growing steam on Mizzou to the SEC. Some guy who works for CBS in Dallas named Pat Jones is saying expect an announcement by the end of the day while the St Louis Post Dispatch has also said a meeting between Mizzou and the interim Big 12 commish was postponed indefinitely. The meeting was supposed to be about Mizzou making a commitment to the Big 12. It appears they are drifting away from the Big 12 although I still think deep down they want into the Big 10 but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon. The other rumor that goes along with this is that the Big 12 is expected to invite Louisville, TCU, WVU and Cinci to get back to 12 teams leaving BYU out in the cold. Sadly this leaves the MWC and CUSA with nobody but each other. I hate the idea of an alliance with CUSA as the MWC has done most of the work to gain AQ status and CUSA has only recently had one team finish in the Final 25 BCS standings (UCF last year). With the Big East out of the way the MWC should slide into their BCS slot and expand by picking up Houston and SMU although Utep apparently seems to be a rumor as well. Why ? I don't know.
Not good for the MWC... Denver Post is reporting Air Force to the Big East by the end of October. I will highlight the hypocrite line by the AFA AD... good stuff. http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19073868 mark kiszla Mark Kiszla: Air Force preparing to leave Mountain West for Big East SOUTH BEND, Ind. — Get ready to kiss Air Force goodbye. The Mountain West Conference is on the verge of losing a charter member. The Falcons are looking to fly far away to save the Big East from disintegration, with the hope that fellow military academies Navy and Army will join them in the league. "Our interest is high in the Big East. That's fair to say," Air Force athletic director Hans Mueh told me Saturday. "This stuff is moving fast." He expects that the future of Air Force athletics will be decided by the end of October. The plan would have the Falcons joining the Big East only in football, while moving teams in other sports to the Missouri Valley Conference. "In my perfect world, with the Big East on the radar, I would love Air Force, Navy and Army to be in that conference together," said Mueh, stressing that no final decision has been made. But after talking with Mueh extensively outside a somber locker room in the wake of the Falcons' 59-33 loss to Notre Dame, it clearly sounded as if Air Force is gazing squarely at the exit door from the Mountain West, a conference it played a key role establishing in 1999. "I could just sit back and wait, but that's not in the best interest of my cadets. I need money to allow them to compete," Mueh said. "For us, competition is a mission. It builds the leadership, self-confidence, discipline, teamwork, courage and stamina that we want in the officers we're producing for America." Know what the biggest shocker in Air Force's decision might be? Given an opportunity to join Oklahoma and Texas in a revamped Big 12, the Falcons have said thanks, but no thanks. "We were approached by the Big 12, and I told them we're not a good fit for that conference. In the Big 12, geography makes sense, the economics make sense, but recruiting makes no sense for us. I can't recruit against Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State," Mueh said. "That's why I turned down the Big 12. I can't do that to my kids, because they'll get beat up. I'd love the extra $12 million or whatever it would be per year from the TV money. And I know how I'd spend the money. I'd build a new soccer stadium, and I'd build a new baseball facility, all in one year. But I can't do that." Loyalty is dead in college football, and television contracts for football have gone insane. Greed rules. "There are terrible, terrible hard feelings in college athletics," Mueh said. "I'm so disappointed with my fellow athletic directors. I think we have put the student-athlete in second place while chasing the dollar." Here's the real bottom line for Air Force: It is better to break the hearts of old friends on the field before they dump you. Leaving the Mountain West would put traditional rivalries with Colorado State and Wyoming in jeopardy for the Falcons. "The first thing I'll do is go to them and ask forgiveness for leaving the Mountain West, if that's what happens," Mueh said. "Then I'll ask them if they'd like to continue playing a traditional rival in football. I can't imagine they would say no. It's a big game for both Colorado State and Wyoming." Air Force and Navy have negotiated extensively to ensure they move together to the Big East, and gone so far as to lobby Army to join them as football partners in the league. Mueh insisted: "The Big East wants Army. Absolutely." The Black Knights, however, have concerns their program might not be ready for the rigors of playing West Virginia and other top teams in the Big East on a regular basis. Despite the recent defections of Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the Atlantic Coast Conference, it appears the reports of the Big East's imminent death might have been exaggerated. Mueh believes the league will soon have 10 football-playing members. He also termed any uncertainty in the league's automatic qualifying status for the BCS as not a deal-breaker for the Falcons. "The conference holding together and assuring us stability, that's what is huge," said Mueh, who anticipates Big East leadership will make a recommitment to solidarity this week. Amid all the money-grubbing and broken relationships on the scarred college athletic landscape, we must ask: Can the Mountain West survive? "It will survive," Mueh predicted. But Air Force will do what's right for Air Force, even if it means turning its back on old friends.
How is moving to a conference that is thousands of miles away the best thing to do? Did the AD fail geography?
