Nope not really. He played a shitty game vs Baltimore, and now we need to point a finger and bash the QB.
You did miss the point of the thread. He's played a bunch of shitty games in his career, mostly because of a few essential flaws in his makeup and play. He's also played a bunch of very good games in his career and he's played very well when it counted at the end. The question the thread asks is what are the flaws that have lead him to throw 23 interceptions on the left side of the field in 354 throws in his career, a 6.5% career interception rate on that side? What are the flaws that have lead him to fumble as often as he has while being chased down from behind? Why does he not throw the ball over the middle more often despite being a very effective passer in that area of the field? If you don't want to talk about what Sanchez flaws are I totally understand that but then why are you in the thread at all?
Funny jokes: 0 Unfunny jokes: Every response to this thread. Get on topic or don't post at all. Or get more creative.
I think the OP should get on topic. He's clearly nitpicking here. ...he's too short and his arms are too long? C'mon, man.
lol u beat me I think he misses easy completions way too often. 2 WR screens vs Oakland jumped out at me, one he was completely wide on and the other Mason had to leave his feet and only gained a couple yards whereas a good pass rite in the numbers probably would have gotten him close to a 1st down
Because he's a homer and that's what homers do. Good thread, Br4d. I would add the mental lapses are a real flaw. He has a frustrating knack for making boneheaded plays at inopportune times, not that there's any good time for them, I understand. But it's two weeks in a row he chose to try and make a play happen on first down after getting the ball back from the other team where he turned it back over to them, and there was no real chance on either play. Both were cases of stupidity, plain and simple. Your point about INT's being more to the left side of the field is obviously correct, which is a real problem since he has the throw to get it out there, which is quite refreshing considering how Chad could never make that throw. I agree it might well be a vision thing on his part. You took up our discussion of throwing deep in the middle by getting some numbers. Good for you, and i was not aware of his percentages to that part of the field. Despite that I have to think he doesn't throw there that often for the reasons I mentioned before, which is primarily a fear of the safeties. Perhaps he's not that confident in his ability to read the safeties yet.
The size issues might be nitpicking. I wouldn't have brought up the arm length, but he doesn't have a quick release, and that could be a reason why. 6'2, 225 is certainly adequate for a QB. 6'2 isn't huge, but maybe that has something to do with his lack of field vision. Either way, that wasn't the only point he made, and the 2nd half, particularly the throwing to the left stat, was interesting.
His height clearly affects him more than breeze. He seens to have twice as many balls tipped as every qb the jets play against. I don't watch enough saints games to see how often breeze gets tipped, but I'm pretty sure it isn't as often as sanchez. He's not a "noodle armed choir boy", but I don't think he has one of the stronger arms in the league either. You notice this on deeper outs like the int against Chicago to end the game last year. The ball just doesn't seem to fly the same way Rogers' and Brady's passes do. His decision making is not the best. I'll give him a pass on that since he's a 3rd yr guy and still young, but the dumb passes have cost the Jets numerous games. Every qb throws picks when they misread or get fooled by defenses, but sanchez's picks seem to be just dumb "wing it" throws more often than not. Even though he does some dumb shit and is short, he's still played better than all but 2 Jets QB's (Ken for a few yrs and Vinny in 98) since I've been a fan, so I'll take what we've got. When he has time, he's been pretty good. I don't think he'll ever be a top 5 guy, but he's got a good chance to be consistently top 10 for a long time if he doesn't get killed this yr.
His biggest flaw is inconsistency...you never know what he'll give you. This is why we need to go back to ground and pound. The Jets aren't gonna win very many shoot-outs
I brought up the arm length because of a conversation I saw a couple of scouts have about Sam Bradford last year. They were wondering if his release was going to be quick enough to be a dominant NFL QB and they finally decided it was nit-picking given his other strengths. The guy they brought up as a counter example was Mark Sanchez who had very long arms for a short QB and who was displaying some issues with release times in the NFL. I brushed the comment off at the time but I started to think about it again last week when Sanchez hit Plaxico in the back shoulder on the crossing pattern (I think it was Plaxico, might have been Mason) it looked like a well-thrown ball that arrived a split second late. Had the right height and velocity but got there as Plaxico was passing out of range to catch it. There have been a fair number of those in Sanchez career so far. He's also gotten several receivers absolutely killed right after the ball arrived, which is another characteristic of a slow release.
I just watched indy at tampa, Fredmans play is killing me, he is everything you could wish in a qb class 2009. 6'6, calm collected, doesn't make many mistakes etc etc. AND picked 17th. In all fairness I remember him being judged to be very raw before the draft, but still bummer.
Agree with almost everything, except for the slow release thing Still like him though, we're still gonna win the superbowl with him
Just about everyone in this thread COMPLETELY missed the point. Br4dw4y gave concise, defensible flaws in Sanchez, but nowhere did he dismiss him as a QB. He even went so far as to say he was delineating what he saw as flaws because of all of the overreaction and absurdity the board has been flooded with this past week. There are people insisting we should get into the Luck sweepstakes. AYFKM? People in here are acting as though a QB needs to be perfect in order to win. Anyone who thinks Sanchez doesn't have any flaws in his game is lying to himself. He can win for us, and Br4dw4y acknowledges that more than willingly. However, he's dead on with regard to his release, especially on certain throws. I wouldn't call it a slow release, but it's certainly a half-tick slower than you'd like to see. I may disagree with the significance of the physical issues, seeing as I don't find them particularly detrimental, but he backs up everything he says, unlike the people simply attacking him because they feel Sanchez is under fire. Seriously, it's ok to love your fucking QB and still recognize problems that need fixing.
Are you really going to keep shitting on the OP for pointing out that Sanchez has minor physical flaws and some correctable problems with his decision making and accuracy? He said right from the start that he's trying to address the massively overreaching accusations levied recently.
Against weak competition, anyone can look like Joe Montana or Troy Aikman. I still think Freeman is more of a beneficiary of weak competition, not a real deal.(he always folded against tough competition - unlike Sanchez)
