Mark Sanchez vs Josh Freeman

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  1. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Trap blocking is a different type of blocking scheme. It could have worked if it had been applied. The offense was awful in the 2nd half. The reason we didn't get that additional 7 was because the first play after a great punt return Sanchez made a poor decision. I have held the players accountable - please read my thread on Sanchez's poor decision. But Schotty has not adjusted the offense when he needs to.
     
  2. Murrell2878

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    Our inside running game hasn't worked but we haven't used traps yet. Traps are different than straight line runs. It's more of a deceptive play. I'm not saying we need to be running that every time, I'm saying we should have run that a couple of times just to try to get the defense to hesitate.
     
  3. nyjunc

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    It was a poor decision by mark BUT Plax got interfered w/ just feet away taking away an option and it wasn't called.

    I think there is blame to go around for everyone but for people to excuse the players and just bash the OC is 100% wrong. I'm not syaing you are doing that but that is all I see. I see a mixture of poor execution w/ some untimely play calls but no play called will ever look good if players aren't executing.

    I haven't had that "what they hell are thinking calling that play" moment yet this year, it's happened plenty in the past few years as brian gets too cute w/ trick plays but I haven't really had that moment yet. I haven't had too many problems w/ playcalling so far.
     
  4. Murrell2878

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    The refs were terrible on Sunday. There is PLENTY of blame to go around on the offense. Shonn Greene and Wayne Hunter are the two players that deserve the most. But the need to adjust to situations that aren't going well to put the offense in the best position to succeed is on Brian. I like Schotty and I like some of the things he does, but he needs to get better at making in-game adjustments and know how to better disguise or cover up our weak spots IMO.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    Fair points though I thought Shonn ran the ball pretty well the other day.

    I'm torn on this week, when backed into a corner this team usually plays. This is a big game, we could easily be starting at 2-3 in a week and while we'd still be in the race it would make winning the division difficult.
     
  6. NDmick

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    LT, Burress, Mason, Holmes.

    All said something about predictability or not adjusting to a new defensive look.

    That's pure incompetence on the CSs part.
     
  7. jwmann2

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    I'll answer that question with another question. How many playoff games have Freeman and Stafford played in again? lol.
     
  8. nyjunc

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    when did Burress and mason complain? either way, is it odd for WRs to comnplain when they aren't catching enough passes?

    yet we are still averaging 25 PPG on O w/ no eunning game and an OL that is really struggling to both protect the QB and open holes for RBs.
     
  9. NDmick

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    Burress said that he doesn't care about not getting any passes as long as they win. That was the JAX game.

    But he did say they weren't prepared for the cover 2 looks that took him away. How is an NFL offense not prepared for a cover 2 look in their game plan?

    In all 3 games, the opposing defense has done something where it has taken an entire half for Schotty to make an adjustment. Holmes has been critical more than once in the past 4 meaningful games the Jets have played.

    And every team is scoring points at a ridiculous rate. But what other contender has an OC that's getting beat on a weekly basis?
     
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    every team is scoring at a ridiculous rate but we are 9th in scoring out of 32 teams. We must be doing something right especially considering all the limitations this O has right now.
     
  11. NDmick

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    yeah it was playing the Jaguars.

    Even they played a defense that the Jets weren't prepared for.

    I just don't understand how they aren't prepared for these scheme changes. How can the offensive staff prepare all week and not think that the other team might play a different coverage against your offense? Cover 2 has been done before, so I just don't get how they didn't see it coming. How did the Raiders going from man to zone mess up the gameplan without simple adjustments made to combat the change?

    I don't understand what the issue is. How can a defense just look at the depth of your RB and know what's coming, and decide to not keep them guessing? Run a different play with the RB at that depth. Is that concept so foreign? A 14 year old playing madden can make these adjustments.
     
  12. Br4d

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    We've been handed a lot of opportunities by opposing offenses this year. Dallas turned the ball over twice in the 4th quarter against us including the blocked punt and that lead directly to 10 points we wouldn't have likely seen otherwise.

    Jacksonville basically just kept giving us the ball over and over again until we were forced to score.

    Oakland gave us 24 points after giving the pathetic Broncos 20 and getting blown out defensively by the Bills.

    Don't let the raw numbers cloud the facts so far. If Romo plays against us in the 4th quarter the way he has played against everybody else this season we might have scored 17 points against Dallas. McCown basically handed us the game and for most of the first half the offense tried to hand it back.
     
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    We scored 30 against the Jags, 24 against oak and 20 against dallas. It's like we had one game scoring 40 and the other games we scored 10 pts.

    You think all of a sudden they aren't prepared but the last 2 years they were?

    Every team gets turnovers and good STs plays, Buf had 4 INTs last week- you think that helped them score 37? we also had 2 85-90+ yd drives against dal and oak in the 4th qtr getting back into those games.

    I don't think our offense has played very well but we have scored 35 per game, I know this O will get better so I am encouraged by their play so far especially considering the D has been bad 2 of 3 games, the OL has been brutal and we haven't had a running game.
     
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    I will always take the guy with the playoff wins under his belt
     
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    At what other time has half the skill position players come out and speak of not being ahead of the defense?
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I haven't noticed anyone griping besides holmes and that was only b/c he had one acth and 2 targets last week.
     
  17. NDmick

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    Then you missed the LT thread.

    Burress and Mason have also said something.

    Who's next? Let's go with Matt Mulligan.
     
  18. DisgruntledLionFan

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    So before last season you would have taken Flacco and Sanchez over Rodgers?
     
  19. Br4d

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    Apples and oranges in my opinion. Rodgers is 27 and in his prime. Sanchez is still only 24 and Flacco is 26. I'd always take the QB in his early prime over a young guy given the production that Rodgers had shown to that point.

    The question is what we'll think in 3 years when Sanchez is 27 and Rodgers is 30.
     
  20. nyjunc

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    I still haven't seen those quotes and regardless of that WRs whine, it's what they do. I don't think our O has played well but we've averaged 25 PPG w/ no run game and awful OL play. I'm confident this O will be really good this year.
     

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