Namath: Ryan Has Jets Thinking They're Better Than They Are

If someone saw one football game from that era and used it to make broad statements about every game and every player and every rule from that era, would they be considered an expert?

 

I had it on my DVR that took a crap and died. They usually show it every year on NFL network in the weeks leading up to the Superbowl.

Just an aside, if someone saw only that game to evaluate Namath's career, they would be missing a lot. It wasn't his best game by far, but he played well enough to win.

 

http://www.ioffer.com/i/super-bowl-3-iii-jets-16-vs-colts-7-dvd-aaa-classic-18751166?source=eisi

First thing a quick google search came up with.

 

No problem at all.

 

1. You missed the whole point of my argument. Its not that I think you compared him to the players of today. Its that you are using a stat ( TD-INT ratio) which has more relevance today than it did in the 60s. I think I pointed out that that stat was not as significant in the AFL, and I tried to show you that virtually every AFL QB of the 60s had a negative TD-INT ratio. Now, if you want to argue that Lenny Dawson was a better qb than Namath, you might have a point there.

2. Namath being the first player to crack the 4000 yard barrier was a big deal in 1967. It was always his claim to fame. Its like the 4:00 minute mile
It still hasn't been done all that much.

3. I still think if you tool all the changes into consideration that I mentioned, Namath would have stats like Marino or Favre.

4. Parilli & Kemp were big stars in the AFL

 

Its all relative

Namath, Unitas Dawson , etc were not big men. Namath was listed @ 6'2" but he was skinny

Brady, Manning, Marino, Favre, Elway were all big, thick men, and were relatively bigger than the QBs of the 60s in relation to the lineman of the era

PS Montana was slight. He was a throwback

 

I saw Namath in training camp in 1968, was he the same at the end of his career? Hell no, but for a guy with most likely the ugliest, most beat up knees ever to play football, he was certainly no slouch. He had plenty of range and zip, his flankers/wide receivers didn't complain.

Namath and the '68 Jets didn't just win a Superbowl for the Jets, they won the Superbowl for a league for the first time. The Jets may not have won a Superbowl since but they won the most important one in the history of the NFL.

The past few games have shown moments where the veterans are upset and doing everything they can to win the game no matter what the game plan was at the beginning of the game. This really should be a tweaking year and it's not looking that way at all. There is overconfidence on both sides, Wayne Hunter is a good example of this. If you are going to say you are the best then you better play like the best and you better coach like the best. The Superbowl is a long ways off and there are plenty of games in between.

 

Not only are you wrong but without micro surgery Brady's career would have been over 3 years ago.

Who was bigger Deacon Jones, Demarcus Ware of Jason Taylor?

 

"Ryan Has Jets Thinking Theyre Better Than They Are"


you know who that "They Are" is?

the rest of the fucking league


play like a fuckin Jet!

 

That's not what I base my judgements on but it was the game that should have been played at the highest level in that season, right?

I have seen enough, read enough, talked to enough real experts to have knowledge about this. heck, I have been following the Jets since 1981 and the difference btw the 80s athletes and today is a huge difference.

I can try to burn you a copy.

I don't use that game to evaluate Namath.

Is the NFL netowrk version the actual rebroadcast of the game televised on NBC or is it one of those NFL films "greatest games" versions? The one I have has the actual NBC broadcast from 1/12/69 and there are even commercials in it.

The great QBs of that era didn't have negative TD to INT rations, I understand the ratios aren't as great as today but minus 47 is terrible in any era.

You pointed out average to good QBs. This would be equivalent to me comparing Eli to Brady today.

Cracked 4,000 yds in '67 but struggled down the strecthed leading the Jets to 3 losses in their final 4 games to miss out on the div title by one game. He threw 26 TDs and 28 INTs including 9 in those 3 losses at the end of the year.

Do it think a healthy namath would put up great #s in this era? Absolutely, i think he'd be more Favre like though. Great #s guy but makes way too many boneheaded decisions.

Parilli and kemp were quality QBs, they weren't stars like namath and they weren't HOFers.

That is the point though, the other poster brought up if Brady could survive back then. Brady would be considered really big in that era and I'm sure he would survive. They didn't really make QBs that big back then, we didn't see the Ben's or Cam Newton types so putting a QB from this era in that era they'd be really big for any player. This notion that QBs today are soft is incorrect, these rules are to protect their lives b/c the men chasing them are so much bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic.

Ware and Taylor are speed guys, they'd be as fast as the fastest skill WR/RB in that era. They would get 30+ sacks a year b/c no OL would be able to stay in front of them. There will always be examples of biger guys in previous eras(though Deacon at 270 still isn't big today) and smaller guys in this era but it's not just the size, it's the strength and athleticism.

 

I am still overcome by laughter from yesterday upon 'learning' that Tom Brady would have run like Micheal Vick in the 60's because the entire league was so slow and small.

 

I'm here to educate you, if you don't think Brady would look much quicker playing in the 60s than today then I can't help you. You need to take off your Joe Namath underoos and realize the differences btw players of today and the old days.

 

LOL.........wat?

 

I'll just put it in my 'Kerry Collins will win 10 games with the Colts' file.

Which reminds me, I need to print out the "Tom Brady never took a hit and got injured' post.

Thanks for educating the poor unwashed masses junc. YOU ARE A SPECIAL PERSON.

 

Awesome, nice deflection! As usual there isn't any substance to your posting, just lame attempts at humor.

 

Holy shit!

It wasn't even an exaggeration. He really did type that.

 

It sad how supposedly intelligent adults take every word literally.

 

I imagine that Tom Brady would have dominated football in the 1930's.

He would be a natural to run the 'Statue of Liberty' play.