Namath: Ryan Has Jets Thinking They're Better Than They Are

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  1. nyJETS0511

    nyJETS0511 Banned

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    ..and the Detroit and Cleveland wins last year werent gifts?? this message board is gonna light the f*ck up if we lose the next 2 games. OUR next 5 games- PATS x2, Bills, Chargers,and 1 gift Fins.....our season is right here in these games
     
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    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    Why should that surprise you. Namath actually won a SB and look how negatively some people view his accomplishments. This regime has knocked on the door 2 years in a row and got carved up like a holiday turkey both times.
     
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    This regime has fielded the best team we've fielded in a long tome, so yes, damned straight they've earned the benefit of the doubt. And I think Namath does respect Ryan and the rest of the coaches. He's just being Joe and speaking his mind. Hey, if it provides a little extra motivation for the rest of the season, I'm all for it.
     
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    Burress and Mason are old men, but we shouldn't have let Ellis go?


    Go stick your head back in the sand.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    yes, having our K miss 3 makeable FGs was definitely a gift!
     
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    nyJETS0511 Banned

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    Ellis was one of our top productive guys on defense.....Burress hasnt played in 2 years....Mason was about to retire a year ago for a reason.......stick your head in the sand chump.....man this message board is bullsh*t
     
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    Yeah, well that's what happens when you predict you're going to kick ass and win the Superbowl and then you only "knock on the door."

    Hey, I like us knocking on the door, don't get me wrong. We haven't knocked on the door many tiimes since I've been a STHer in the past 26 years. And the number of Home Field Advantages we've had in a playoff game knocking on the door has been scare as hell. So yeah, nobody wants us to get Home Field more than I do, since I can actually go to the game at Face.

    I'm just saying, STFU already with all this "we're a better team" and let's see what the record is after Game Five. If we're 4-1, Rex can tell Joe to STFU. If we're 2-3 and still talking about the best defense in the league and we'll kick your ass and we're going to the SB, well then I have a problem with that and I'm sure Namath will too.
     
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    Canada huh? lol
     
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    Losing Ellis sucks, but calling out Burress and Mason I don't think is a problem. Burress has looked awesome so far, and there has only been 3 games. One of which he was not involved in. Whether the guy was out or not, he can flat out play. Mason may be older, but he is not our number 1 receiver. He has awesome hands and has the veteran mindset to help lead the rest of the team. He will be a tremendous benefit for us on the slant route. I don't think we downsized at all with the receiving group.
     
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    You are correct about that. Expectations are through the roof.
     
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    Ellis is so over-the-hill, you'd have to be a defcon 5 duncecap not to realize it. He's really making a sizeable impact in NWE so far.


    Burress draws double-coverages....must be because he hasn't played in 2 years.


    So, this messageboard is bullshit, because your arguments stink like a hot day at the hog farm? interesting theory. :rolleyes:
     
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    Heh-heh... I'll tell you, I'm delighted with Burress too. I don't see how anyone can knock this acquisition. We got him on the cheap and he's doubled for a reason. And when they double him, that means Holmes or Keller can had a field day. How someone can not like this acquisition is beyond me.
     
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    I agree with you, 227.


    The point i was trying to get across to nyJETS0511 is you can't knock the Burress/Mason acquisitions because of their age, and then pine for Shaun Ellis in the same sentence. That's pretty stupid.
     
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    It was a much different game then. DB's could bump and run a receiver all the way down the field. There weren't many rules about how you could hit someone.

    If someone clotheslined a receiver coming across the middle, the announcer would say "Nice hit". Now they would be hand wringing over how long he will be suspended and how big a fine he will have to pay.

    There have been a lot of rules changes since then that put defense at a disadvantage. Comparing QB's of the 60's and 70's with the current era is a bit like apples and oranges. The QB's didn't get that much better, the game changed a lot. And far as Namath's career stats, he played way too long past his prime on bad knees. There was no orthoscopic surgery then. I've seen pics of Namath's knees, the scars on them look like roadmaps.
     
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    Agreed!..now if we could only get these guys the ball consistently throughout 4 quarters we are in business!
     
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    I understand the game was almost nothing like it is today but the top QBs of his day had postive TD to INT ratios, -47 is terrible in any era.

    Nowhere have I compared Joe to any current QBs, I always compare guys to the players of their eras.

    I have always said if he didn't have the injuries maybe he could have been a true all time great BUT durability plays into it and he was't durable enough.
     
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    I worship Joe Namath just like anyone does who is old enough to have followed all the pregame rhetoric and then actually watched SB III live on TV. The excitement was through the roof. So yeah, he's The Annointed One and always will be IMO for having taken us to the Promised Land.

    But many of us tend to romantically extend that unbelievable win into making his career something that it wasn't. He was hot in that game, and also in many of those fall games in '68 leading up to it. And he had the talent surrounding him and his players to a man would have no question followed the guy into hell if he said "Let's go!" His positives and his self confidence and his leadership can't be questioned... especially his self confidence... off the charts. And his self confidence was what enabled him to back up his outlandish, almost laughable (to some) prediction as to the outcome.

    That said, on a list of all-time great QBs, Namath cannot be considered anywhere near the top, sorry to say. Era or no era, different rules or no different rules, different times or not.
     
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    :up::jets:
     
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    The Namath Super Bowl happened 11 years before I was born, so I hop nobody thinks that this is just Baltimore sour grapes...

    The guy was the QB on a Super Bowl winning team, but looking at his career he just wasn't as great as the legend would indicate.

    For a guy like that to make those comments about Rex making people overconfident? Sounds like he's just crying for attention to me.
     
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