Agreed. I think the MWC will play a part in this... Basically the teams getting the most shit from this re-alignment are: Big 12 --> Iowa State, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Missuori Big East --> South Florida, West Virginia, Cincinnati, Louisville (I'm 90% sure UConn and Rutgers are ACC bound). MWC --> TCU (supposedly Big East bound) WAC --> Every team remaining in the WAC (since all the good teams are MWC bound). In the hypothesis the ACC adds UConn and Rutgers (thus reaching 16 members) and that both the SEC (currently 13 members) and the Big Ten (currently 12) go for 16 football members then 7 more teams will find a home (with one maybe being ND). Those who don't will join the MWC, the C-USA and possibly even the WAC or the MAC. The Big East will prob still exist as a non football conference. What I question is will the SEC and Big 10 go to 14 and maybe even 16?
I think your graph shows that nobody cares. 304,000 people is nothing in this market. That they are that far behind Rutgers as far as share also tells us no one cares. This is a pro town, there are a bunch of us on her that love college sports but we are in the minority.
They play a bunch of ACC schools as well. They fit as well academically in the Big 10 as Nebraska does but are better suited for the ACC. Besides geography be damned they need recruits and since they already got the midwest covered by being there they would be better off going to the ACC so they can recruit better in Florida, Georgia, and along the east coast.
It's not every person in the city just so you know. Besides even if it is a pro city that doesn't mean that college sports is completely ignored especially when it involves a major program.
Great quote. RichCimini Rich Cimini Classic Jim Boeheim: "If conf commissioners were the founding fathers of this country, we'd have Guatemala, Uruguay and Argentina in US."
Must be why they don't hold the Big East tournament in the Garden right because nobody cares? In other news SEC and ACC tell WVU to piss off https://twitter.com/#!/McMurphyCBS/status/116175835815350272 "Multiple Big East sources said they have been told by WVU officials that WVU rejected by ACC & SEC"
what does that have to do w/ anything? That building isn't filled w/ NYers, it's filled w/ kids from the schools plus teams not fare from NYC that have good fanbases that will travel there like SU and UConn. NYC is also an event town, we sold out soccer for the WC. People don't pay attention to college sports which is why the Garden is always empty(unless SU or UConn play there) during the season.
Wow... that may actually be good news for the MWC. If the Big 12 survives and absorbs the Big East all of a sudden the MWC is gonna get poached. That being said if the BE absorbs what remains of the Big 12 it's CUSA schools like UCF, East Carolina and Houston would likely get poached. That would give the MWC a chance to add SMU and UTEP and get to 12 teams and still stay fairly regional. If what remains of the BE is Louisville, West Virginia, USF, and Cinci and they add Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas and Kstate they could add Memphis, UCF, ECU and TCU to get to 12. Word on the street is that SMU wants badly to join the MWC but they want a travel partner like Houston, Tulsa or Utep. They apparently turned down an offer but word is if they could find a travel for SMU then they would join. Obviously the hold up is Houston who has a shot at both the BE and Big 12.The MWC is going to hold out on Houston before looking at any other CUSA schools. It will all depend on how things shake out but the best scenario is that the Big 12 disolves and the surviving schools are forced to go East.
Missouri has an SEC invite but..... http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/20/3155336/source-mizzou-has-sec-offer-but.html
The whole Boeheim story...funny stuff. http://espn.go.com/new-york/ncb/story/_/id/6996319/syracuse-orange-jim-boeheim-not-fan-realignment
You said it that nobody cared so why would they host a tournament in a place where nobody cares? Besides you're referring to a shitty college team that plays there St.John's of course no one is going to watch a subpar team. Even when the pros have subpar teams nobody is going to show up. Besides how would you even know if they're from NYC or not?
The BE Tourney isn't about NYers, it's about college kids from the 35 BE college towns. Have you ever been to a BE Tourney?
So locals never go? If they don't go they why host it there? Might as well just let the higher seeds play at home if it's for the kids on campus, why make them travel to a city that doesn't care. Why would I go to a tourney featuring teams I don't like considering I'm a Duke fan and why does going there have to do with anything.
Sure locals go, they are in the minority but some locals go. As a college basketball fan you should want to go, you were speaking like you have been to BET's before- it was just a question.
Heard it from an OM booster this morning; the SEC will be going for 16 schools. (What I want to see now is a 17 game + bowl season schedule. One bye week, all conference games. Wont happen.) West: ATM Mizzou East: Louisville Virginia Tech is the ACC school they're putting effort into getting. There will be no WVU no matter what happens to their conference. Geographically too far from everyone except Kentucky will be the "official logic"
Big East except UConn commit to conference. http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_...ohn-marinatto-says-schools-committed-big-east Pac-12 says no to expansion http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/32148466 Texas to ACC stays alive for now.
My one WVU alum friend who cares about this stuff is perfectly fine with that. He hates the ACC. As for the SEC, for whatever reason he doesn't want WVU to go there. He hopes the Big Ten takes WVU. His worst case scenario? WVU goes to Conference-USA and is a top team there. To me, if they get stuck in an outcast conference they can kiss goodbye any aspirations of ever winning a national title in football. It pretty much looks like Big Ten or bust. They are not special enough (Notre Dame) or weird enough (BYU) to survive being an independent. As a Seton Hall alum, I hope the Pirates stay in an adjusted Big East with the other schools that either don't have football or have a crappy football program. Then I hope a second Philadelphia school can be added and maybe UMass.
Oklahoma sort of commits to the big 12 which probably keeps Texas there as well, the big east may expand instead of fold and the PAC 12 stays as is. What a difference a day makes. Oh, and poor WVU is the school that nobody wants.
