Is Cromartie worth his 4 year $32 million dollar contract?

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  1. 88toon

    88toon Well-Known Member

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    yeah thats exactly what I said.....lol. keep trying.
     
  2. 88toon

    88toon Well-Known Member

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    Hi, I am Mr E. I go back on people's posts, find something they poster, change what they said, and try to call them out.

    Funny thing is looking back, you started using some of my language. Pathetic.......lol!
     
  3. Hemi

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    88toon why don't you take it to the TT forum instead of ruining threads.
     
  4. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Indeed, the TT forum need something entertaining anyway. If you wanna argue about Cro do it here. If you wanna talk shit take it to trash talk.
     
  5. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    All this for 1 game?

    It's quite repetitive but the entire league was getting shit on. 16 300+ yard passers or something close to that.


    At least give it a few weeks before bitching and moaning about it.
     
  6. 88toon

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    you guys are right, my bad.

    Back to Cro, I was more disappointed in the Austin catch then the Bryant catch. If you think about when WR do drills, they catch, rip, and tuck every ball they catch. No reason Cro should have had the ball taken away like that gotta fight for that. I think more than anything he just has too many mental lapses. I don't think its lazy or lack of effort, I think on both touchdowns he was just not 100% focused.
     
  7. PJ4Ever

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    Couldn't disagree more. To me, the Austin play was an incredible play by Miles. The Bryant play was just a bad play by Cro. He didn't even jump.
     
  8. 88toon

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    He had the pick in his hands and didnt secure it. That wasnt an incredible play by Miles, it was more a lack of concentration to finish the play by Cro.

    With the Bryant play, it could be a miss timing etc. Anyone who has played sports has had a moment where you see something and you just dont react like you want. Rebound goes up and you misstime (sp?) your jump and don't even leave your feet. I could that happening before I see having the ball in your hands and not having the presence of mind to catch, rip, and tuck like a WR in WR drills.
     
  9. Mr Electric

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    I don't like Mr. E! He poster too much.
     
  10. Mr Electric

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    Per a very, very credible source:

     
  11. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    You have the same rules as 88toon. Take it to TT if you aren't discussing Cromartie anymore.
     
  12. Jetsring2013

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    watching Mr. E spiral out of control after getting thoroughly owned by Abyzmul has been the most entertaining time in my short TGG career with all due respect. It's like watching Charlie Sheen or Lindsay Lohan crashing and burning. Really good stuff. Just saying.
     
  13. 88toon

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    All in all if we think about it, we have bigger issues than Cro. Even though we might not have liked what we saw Sunday night, Cro will be fine. Going back to the OP, is he worth 4/32? Probably not. But he was the best corner on the market at the time, knew the system, and fits our style of play. I think like many of us have said, we are way too spoiled with Revis. I am sure some might agree, but its to the point where if anything gets completed on Revis (like the Bryant catch) you have a little "wtf" kind of moment then realize how irrational that is. With that said, we have to look at Cro's overall body of work and determine how many other corners would you rather have on the other side of Revis.
     
  14. Mr Electric

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    Posting on a message board isn't a career. Just saying.

    Now, unlike yourself, I understand how this league works. The market value for corners was incredibly high.

    Antonio Cromartie is worth his contract because of two main factors:

    1. Great physical potential.

    2. Market Value

    If posters like yourself and abyzmul want to say he's not worth his FOUR year contract because he allowed a jump ball fade TD (Bryant) and an amazing rip-away TD (Austin), then I don't know what to tell peasants like you.

    Like I said before in this thread, it's one god damn game. Saying that a player on a four year deal isn't worth it because he allowed an almost routine TD and a freak/miracle TD in one game is borderline retarded.

    Come back when you're four years into your "career" and we'll see how things are going for this defense.

    ...and I still want to know when this fabled "reputation" call out happened, abyzmul. No one seems to know anything about it. SINCERELY, I want to know.
     
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  15. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Free agents always make more than they're supposed to. We overpaid for Scott and Pace, too, but they're good players. Same with Cromartie. A good player, not an $8 million a year player at all.

    He's an athletic freak, but not a great cornerback. Don't get me wrong, he's one of the better #2 cornerbacks in the league. But we're still paying for an $8 million a year #2 cornerback who is prone to mental lapses and has mediocre technique.

    I don't know how you can call it one game. He's been the same cornerback he's been since he got here. Athletic enough to make some plays and cover most guys, but if you're a small, quick guy, he'll have trouble, if you're too physical, he'll have trouble.

    He'll have flashes of brilliance, and then he'll make some plays that will have you scratching your head. Combine that with the facts that he's had issues both on and off the field, and he's overpaid.

    But it's not like we're paying an awful cornerback that much money. Cro is a good player. And just because other cornerbacks and free agents got overpaid, too, doesn't mean Cromartie wasn't also.

    I guess my point is: Yes, he's overpaid, and no, he's not as good as some people think he is. However, given our defense, Wilson's mediocre first year, and the way things played out this offseason, we pretty much had to sign him to this deal. He's overpaid, but it's a deal we had to make.
     
  16. Hemi

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    you have been here two weeks and already know about the history here? interesting.
     
  17. Mr Electric

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    This is how I feel.

    I say it's one game because we weren't paying him big money last year. Is he worth if he seals a couple games for us down the stretch and helps us win a championship? Definitely. He's the kind of player that can do that. Most teams doesn't have a great receiving corps like Dallas does - he'll be fine.

    Most #1 corners in this league get beat every game. Like a few other posters mentioned already in this thread, most fans expect amazing CB play because of Darrelle Revis.

    The front office chose to stay strong at corner instead of bringing back Braylon Edwards. With a defensive minded head coach, we should've expected that.
     
  18. Rockefella

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    Cro is like Asante Samuel to me. He's not really a shutdown corner but his measurables and talent make him a threat for a huge defensive/ST play opposite Revis. I just wish he was more physical.
     
  19. Mr Electric

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    They're both gamblers. That style of play can make or break you in this league.

    It's tough to find a physical corner that can cover - guys cracked on Drew Coleman his entire career here, but he was a tough son of a bitch. He struggled in coverage though. Kyle Wilson loves to hit and he showed outstanding coverage ability at Boise. Let's see where that takes him.

    We have have another all-around corner on the roster.
     
  20. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    That's part of why I wanted Nnamdi. If we're going to give a good cornerback $8 million dollars, why not go for broke and get an elite cornerback for a few million more?

    It sucks we didn't have a full offseason to look at Wilson. We couldn't trust him as the #2 based off last year, but it's not inconceivable at all that he could have been a #2 corner for us. We still would have needed another #2/#3 cornerback just for depth purposes, but we wouldn't have had to pay $8 million.
     
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