vlad 'the turnstyle' ducasse

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Depends... do we win the Super Bowl in year 4?
     
  2. ManlyGenius

    ManlyGenius New Member

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    Fair enough. And draft picks who develop do have some value because (a) you have negotiating exclusvity before their rookie contracts are up, so you can sometimes lock them up long term, and (b) you can franchise them if they're really really good.

    But in general, a high draft pick who can't start until the last year of his rookie deal just isn't a good pick.
     
  3. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Kyle Wilson is a bust! Mark it down guys.
     
  4. AbdulSalam

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    Ridiculous thread continues. LOL
     
  5. MBGreen

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    Amen, Mark. Time to show a little faith in our coaching staff.
     
  6. ManlyGenius

    ManlyGenius New Member

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    I didn't say that.

    If Kyle Wilson is a starting quality corner for the rest of his contract then he's a great pick even if he's not technically a starter.

    Nickelbacks and third wideouts might not be "starters" generally play so much they might as well be.
     
  7. Klaus Casanova

    Klaus Casanova New Member

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    It is a positive sign to see from Sanchez, but Rex Ryan's comments and confidence in his coaching about the dearly departed Vernon Gholston were nearly identical.

    The abundance of players who fail to develop instincts and confidence and competence with a pro club at the same level of their storied raw physical ability typically results with them being termed a'project' player for three quarters of a disappointing and common career.
     
  8. Rockefella

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    That's not an overstatement at all. They are facts.

    Vlad was in the running to be a starter at LG AND RT if he won out against Slauson and Hunter, respectively. Whether or not they are head and shoulders above him, which they are because they are currently more talented, is the KEY reason why he didn't win out on the competitions.
     
  9. IATA

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    turnstyle.

    does that mean ducasse is a dj?

    dj vlady d?
     
  10. nyJETS0511

    nyJETS0511 Banned

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    So hold my hand and come a little closer
    We'll break up lines and soon it will be over

    .... what a deep 2 sentences man (in a gay way) .......i bet you have some tats man....what do they mean man? cool man.
     
  11. IATA

    IATA Trolls

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    i have a butterfly on the small of my back, 8 tribal rings around my arms and calfs, some words on my forehead and a few teardrop tattoos.
     
  12. nyJETS0511

    nyJETS0511 Banned

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    a TOOL fan ahaaaahaaa...what are you like 48? gayest shit ive seen in a while....but i hear thats how you guys roll
     
  13. IATA

    IATA Trolls

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    tool? where did you get that?
     
  14. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    RELAX. It takes time, 10-12 years at least, for a player like Ducasse to become a legit back up.
     
  15. IATA

    IATA Trolls

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    I still want to know where he got that I'm a tool fan
     
  16. Coach K

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    ive been high on him before the draft and was ecstatic when we drafted him



    heres a novel idea for someone with his lack of experience.


    give him one position and let him learn it.


    i love how the solution to someone whos visibly confused on the field is to switch his position numerous times.

    anyways, he will be good i expect him to silence critics by next yr.

    its been said but i think him missing this offseason is exactly why he looks like he did last yr.

    isnt that funny how the project without an offseason looks the same at the beginning of his 2nd yr.


    Mr Bill OHHHHHH NOOOOOO BUST!!!!!

    gimme a break.
     
  17. Coach K

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    dont worry this thread has reached zombie status.


    we need a


    BOOM

    /headshot
     
  18. Jets Dan

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    You are a generous grader regarding his run blocking...
     
  19. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I doubt even his biggest detractors can find a reason not to give him a solid run blocking grade.
     
  20. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    You didn't watch the tape. I did.


    I'll throw another fish to the sharks:

    His RT tape. And only his RT tape - there are two snaps he needs to have back. One is the McElroy cadence change which made him look atrocious but isn't his fault for the QB not telling the whole line whats going on. And one pressure he gave up on a nice spin move, GMac still got rid of the football.

    That's it.

    Other than that his run blocking was solid and so were the rest of the pass protection snaps.

    Tape doesn't lie. If the tape was worse I'd be screaming for his head like everyone else. Its not as bad as it seems.
     

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