Comment section in Plaxico article...

"Rex blowing smoke up peoples as$es again, the Jets O-Line looked like junk against the Texans the Bills may beat them this year !"

:rofl:

"Wow, hope Sanchise can complete more than 55% of his passes and throw more TD’s than INT’s. Hasn’t done it yet in his career."

 

Looks like RaiderJoe is still alive.

 

I don't know about the Bills comment, thats just going too far. My problem is that Braylon, Cotch, and Holmes were working. Not the best, but working. Since Sanchez came to the Jets he has had a revolving door of WRs. There is no way we can expect Sanchez to grow and gel with his WRs that way. If we couldnt keep our WRs this year, I at least had hoped we would have kept two. Of our new WR's, Holmes has the most history with Sanchez, which is less than a season. Not good in my opinion, but they did sign him long term. PLAX, I am PRAYING works out. I hope it works out. He has a lot to prove and is motivated, but he's probably not gonna be wearing green next year. Ward is good, but old. Here are two more potential revolving door guys. How does this help Sanchez?? It doesn't. But I love Rex, I love what he's done with the team, so I have no room not to trust his decisions. I will hold out the highest hopes, but Plax needs to play great this year, and re-sign for me to forget he bleeds blue.

 

Come on dude, thats crazy. Whether you are building a house, landscaping a yard, going into a pitch meeting, or yes playing football, You need chemistry with those you work with. With Chemistry, the person you are working with (or playing with) can do things without you even asking, or saying anything. You know how they work and what they can do, and vice versa. I've played on plenty of football/socccer/baseball teams, and the ones that had the most success, are the ones where a lot of players come back and the chemistry is there. Every time. Without fail. My Father has pitch meetings all the time, He has been doing it with the same guy for over 20 years. I asked him why it worked, he said: "Because If I dont think of something, he does. We know what each other is going to say and do before we say or do it. Our pitches are flawless." Chemistry.

 

By the way, Relationships aren't rocket science either, but without chemistry, they are nothing.

 

Well, we can respectfully disagree because I see it as a big help when a WR can know what a QB is doing by his eyes, movements, runs, jukes, etc. Holmes did make some great and one AMAZING catch for sure, but the best is yet to come. The catch in the Pats game, I feel will happen a bit more often as these two spend a few years together. (Although it will be really hard to top that one particular TD catch)

 

You sound like my ex-girlfriend. "Omigawd, why do you like this? It's just a bunch of guys running into each other!"

Let me give you a very specific example. I can't remember how many years ago it was... It was when Marvin Harrison was still on the Colts. 4th quarter, Colts trailing, 4th and about 5 or 6. Can't remember who they were playing against, but I'm pretty sure Manning had just waved off the punt team. (Chargers? Might have been Manning's record-breaker game.)

Reggie Wayne runs a go route. He's got man coverage, and he's very well covered; the cornerback is attached at the hip. Manning throws him a bullet, but he deliberately throws it so as not to lead Wayne. Wayne expects this, hits the brakes, gains about one foot of separation from his man, and the pass hits him perfectly in the numbers before he gets immediately tackled for a 20 yard gain.

That play worked because 1) Peyton Manning is an excellent quarterback 2) Reggie Wayne is a very good receiver, but most importantly 3) because Manning and Wayne had developed their rapport so much so that each knew what the other was going to do in that situation.

I always think of that play when people talk about QB-WR chemistry. It's essential, it takes time to develop, and no amount of talent will mask poor QB-WR chemistry.

 

PFT has the most bitter posters on any site

There is one Pats fan in particular who seems to post about 5 hate filled comments under every Jets article. I cant tellif its scary or funny that he is so bothered.

 

You may think that they hate the Jets now. This is small beans compared to what will happen when Young Mark shows up in the 2011 regular season as a top 10 quarterback and not the shellshocked rookie in 2009 or the inconsistent journeyman in 2010 that both currently serve respectively as security blanket and worry beads for those people that verbalize diarrhea so freely when they speak of the Jets.

 

Can you blame him, really? As Jets fans it is easy to enjoy the results of that Foxboro playoffs game. As a Pastes fan, not only were they beaten by the Jets, in their own house, after all of the talk and hype, after 45-3. They also had to get it shoved in their face like a young Japanese girl in a school girl outfit on her knees surrounded by a circle of strapping men with their pants around their ankles afterward. Airplanes, Bart Scott, backflips, and amidst it all was their emotionless football deity Bill Belichick at the center the field, whispering sweet nothings into Ryan's ear for what appeared to be 2-3 full minutes.

What happened in F-boro was their nightmare.

 

I strongly agree. It's not like these guys had been playing together for 8 yrs. You need guys to be on the same page, but santonio pole came in and had "chemistry"right away. I would call it talent rather than chemistry.

Let's call a spade a spade. If a guy can get open and the qb can hit him, that's what matters. Throwing to spots and touch patterns have more to do with the playbook and knowing where you're supposed to be than having chemistry between a qb and a receiver.

 

When a play breaks down and a receiver has to break off their route, a mix of talent and chemistry is key...

 

First talent, without this other things are worthless
Then luck, there are many many variables outside the control of the receiver and QB
Then "Chemistry"

The way I see chemistry its all about being able to differentiate the luck from the talent. Throw me in 100 plays, have me covered by Revis. Have Sanchez start ripping passes at me. I might catch 1 or 2. Holmes would catch 30 or 40. If Sanchez has "chemistry" with both of us he knows I am very likely to drop the pass and can factor my lack of talent into the equation.

Same thing with the pitch idea. You father may think its chemistry, but the truth is he wins because he and his partner have talent. He could swap someone else in but he wouldn't know if when they one or lost a pitch if it was talent or luck. With his partner now, when they lose he knows its talent. Thats all chemistry is.

It also explains why a SB MVP can come onto another team and make an impact right away. The QB knows he has the talent and already factors it into if he should throw to him. Plus because he has the talent, when a play breaks up he is more likely to be slightly more open than the next guy and slightly more likely to catch the ball.

Its not voodoo or religion. Better receivers:
1. Run their routes and are where they are supposed to be (can take time)
2. Are faster/more elusive than the guy covering them (natural ability)
3. Don't drop the ball when they have a chance at a grab (natural ability)

 

Braylon, Cotch and Holmes was not working. We had a mediocre O that couldn't get out of its own way for long stretches last year. Cotch has been hurt for 2 years and was in and out of the lineup. Braylons next precise pass route will be the first one any NFL QB will see from him.

We now have 4 WR who actually run pass routes. Sanchez has another year with Holmes, Keller, Tomlinson who was huge in the passing game along with 2 new guys who are veterans who have a complete understanding of the passing game.

Braylon has coasted on talent alone, that bails out a team with big plays but doesn't help the QB manage a game. Cotch simply wasn't very productive due to injury the last 2 years.

Watch and see what an O with veterans who understand the scheme and are where they are supposed to be does to the O and for Sanchez. I expect a huge leap for the O this year if the line remains healthy.

 

But Cotch and Edwards took less money to do the exact same thing elsewhere .You can't coach 6' 5", and Cotchery while he was good, he didn't have starter talent for the JETS

 

I agree with everything in your post except this...no chance you catch even 1 unless Revis lets you.

This might be the 1st time I've seen anyone have this opinion on this site. I was one who thought that the 3 WR's last yr did work well, but the more I think about it, the more I think you are right. Maybe they won in spite of the WR's instead of because of them...good post.

 

I will concede I would have felt better with Edwards still on the team. I discount that sordid bit up in Michigan. He was probably upset. Was it immature? Yes, but so are a lot of other NFL players. I do think Edwards and MS had developed understanding and a comfort level. If that is called chemistry, fine, but they had something.

Cotch I think the FO thought was too injury prone. I will defer to that assessment, so someone new had to come into the mix of top three wideouts, and imo it was not coming from the rest of last year's squad, so they had to get someone.

Optimally they could have kept both Holmes and Edwards, and added Burress. I am a big fan of Burress's, and changing Edwards out for him I am mostly concerned about more due to Burress's relative age.

But of course the way it worked out Edwards left, so they had to add someone else, that being Mason. I think Mason will contribute, is smart and experienced.

That brings up the chemistry question, though. I think it's an issue, but I also think it is not a big issue as some think it is. This group of receivers is well above average, and certainly talented enough to take the Jets far. It's really going to be up to MS to make the most of what he has to throw to.