In my opinion Mark Sanchez is going to hit the next level this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be a Peyton Manning-type passer, but he just needs to develop consistency. He had some amazing performances last year. The first game in Miami, the OT Detroit game, the OT Cleveland game, the Chicago game, the Houston game and the Pittsburgh were all examples of what how brilliant Mark can be. I've never put a huge amount of his shoulders, because I knew he wasn't a polished product out of college. The growing pains he's had should have been expected, and I did get aggravated when our own fan base trashed the guy like he should have been Joe Montana right off the bat. If anything, look at what he was able to accomplish last year and all his improvements. Honestly we won 3 games from behind solely on his arm. 11-5 with 18 tds and a 54.8 completion %, could you imagine how good we'll be this year when he dwarfs those numbers. This year I expect him to progress greatly, I don't necessarily think he's going to throw for 4000 yards, but I do see him getting 3500-3700 yds, 20-25 touchdowns and having a 58-61 completion percentage rating. When he's on our offense is nearly unstoppable, we basically were able to score at will. While I have blamed some of his faults on the playcalling (let's face it, Schotty has put him in some bad situations) it's been his lack of poise and hitting the open man that was his biggest flaw. I think Braylon and him just never gelled, and quite frankly I'm under the assumption that Braylon was a whiner when he didn't get the ball his way. I think while Braylon is an amazing talent, our offense will get better for it not having a guy like that in our QB's ear essentially making him force passes when he should be looking for an open read. We all know that our team is amazing, look at all the talent and everything. The next step is Mark really hitting that next level, because if he can hit that next level I think we can win 12-13 games, which is essential if we want to win the division. Regardless, I'm fairly confident that if we don't win the division and we have to take the role of the road warriors once again that with what I expect out of Mark, we could have our first Super Bowl birth since SBIII and possibly be the eventual Super Bowl champions. Where are your expectations for Dirty this year?
I expect him to fuck a Hollywood A-lister. No more messing around with bit part actresses and unheard of models, he's the quarterback of the New York Jets and he needs to step up his game.
This. No more television stars, more movie stars and big name models. In fact, he shoudl bang Kate Upton or if he wants to piss Brady off his could dip his pen in Gisele's ink.
I think Mark can throw 20 TDs with fewer than 12 picks this year, and pull off an Emma Roberts-Emma Stone three-way.
To be fair, Detroit and Cleveland games were far from his best, except for his performance in clutch time. The other games I could agree. About Edwards, probably that's true, but I think is too soon to start blaming him for that. I always thought that Santonio was the one who complained for not getting the ball his way, but maybe you're right. The way I see Sanchez performances is that when it's clutch time, that's when he actually feels that the CS place the team on his shoulder. He looks confident, entitled to do whatever he wants to do with the ball and he has proved that he knows what to do with it. When it's not clutch time, he looks like he's gambling with someone else's cash. I think this is not a big deal, something that experience can fix on its own. The talent and intangibles has been shown, I just think it's a matter of experience.
very well put. i really am looking for him to be more consistent. what is it with all of you guys worrying about where mark sanchez puts his junk? ive never seen a group of dudes more interested in some other dudes junk.
I want to see a 2:1 TD/INT ratio and close to 60% completion. Those two things would put him in the top 10-12 QBs in the league, and allow us to flourish as a whole team instead of just a defensive team.
So far, all I have seen are just wild expectations based on "what other QBs do in 3rd year" type of expectation, without any solid reason to back that up. Frankly, I don't want to rain on your parade, but I seriously doubt Sanchez would improve that much this year. First and foremost, he won't put up the kind of number Manning or Brady would put up; say, if Sanchez was playing in New England, then by 3rd year he would be putting up a very respectable number - that much I can agree. If the recent history is any indicator, our offense as a whole does not have a clear cut identity - unlike Patriots, where the identity is imprinted into the system they run. That's a world of difference, guys. We just know we want to run the ball a lot, but are we really imposing our will at the line of scrimmage like we say we want to? Here again I have to say Jets offense are saying one thing and doing quite another. Sure they do run quite often, but when push becomes shove, and when the team has to show the true color, which color did it show? Too many times I have seen this offense trying to 'outsmart' and 'get cute' rather than simply force its will on the opposing defense. As such, I do not think it's out of the realm of possibility to expect the offense to struggle this year again. Mark will show some improvements - that's a given, but will it be enough to score more than the paltry 20 points the offense put up weekly last season? I really have no reason to even consider why that would happen. Seriously, it's a crying shame - with all the offensive talents in the world, you would expect it to blow any defense out of the gate. The reality is, this offense is, with all the talents it has, having real hard time scoring 3 TDs a game.
That would be a huge improvement. I don't think the Jets system supports that sort of result. What I expect is the following: 20 TDs, 14 INT, 3400 YDS, 55% completion. Solid improvements about like the improvements between his first and second years in everything except INTs which regress a little.
I personally don't think it has anything to do with the system. Its just his decision making. Those 2 things I listed can be attainable with better decisions in the course of a game. Passing yards on the other hand have a lot to do with the system, which is why I didn't list them. I personally think passing yards can be a poor way to judge a QB, because you end up scrutinizing him for something he has little control over (someone in west coast offense for example). Also, if he puts up those numbers you mentioned, I would start to get a little worried that we don't have a true franchise QB going forward, just simply a game manager. Those numbers are no better than his numbers from last year with the exception of passing for 3 more TD and 1 more INT. The % comp is still the same which would be VERY troublesome. I've yet to find a QB in the last 10-15 years that can be above average with a % that low.
Actually, 60% completion ratio and 2:1 TD/INT ratio would put him in Pro Bowl hunt (provided he throws 20+ TDs) I seriously doubt if Schotty's system allows that kind of number, no matter the circumstances. Pennington could deal with the 60+% completion ratio, but not the TD/INT ratio. Favre disaster speaks for itself. I don't think you should sniff anything half close to that number this season.
We shall see I guess. Granted its a small sample, but in 6 playoff games he's posted a 3:1 TD/INT ratio and a 60% completion. Its tough to say with Chad, because he only had 1 full season under Schotty and that was coming off his shoulder/arm injury. Same goes with Favre. He was well over 65% under Schotty and had about a 2:1 TD/INT before he tore his biceps tendon. I won't attribute all of his struggles in the 2nd half of the year to that, but it definitely played a large portion. So, I think its possible he throws close to 2:1. It doesn't have to be exact. I'll gladly take something like 22/12 and 60%. He does need to take a big step forward this year though.
3500 yards 22 td 13 int's 58% Reasonable numbers I would say. Assuming the majority agrees that these are reasonable what does that mean we can expect on a game to game basis? Well over 16 games 3500 yards comes out to 219 yards a game. That means we an expect a few games under 200 yards passing an a few over 250, maybe even a 300 yard gam for those that care so much about those. 22 td's means we are looking at just over one a game. Some games with none, a few with 3 or more. We will need the run game to get us some tough td's down in the redzone. We should not be expecting a fade to burress for an easy score each game. It's not that easy, no matter how easy it looks when it works. 13 ints means we will see those brilliant stretches Mark has where he looks like he can do no wrong. A 3 or 4 game stretch where he is turnover free, he has done his first two years and I expect we see it again. A 3 int game somewhere along the line, he does have a tendency to let a bad degrade into an awful one. Another year where he avoids completely melting down like he did a few times his rookie year. At least giving the rest of the team the chance to pick him up when he is down. 58% means he will still be erratic at times and yes, the play calling will not always be perfect. The debate about whether it is more the plays or Mark still growing towards his full potential will rage on for yet another year. It's easy to accept these things are going to happen in August but we will see much ado about nothing when these fairly predicatable results actually take place during the season. Maybe even from some who are making reasonable predictions about Mark's numbers, and therefore the entire passing game, at this moment.
