Jets open to trading Cotchery (rumor)

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  1. MadBacker Prime

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    Yeah and the way it worked out Cro's agent pretty much had us bent over. I was fully in support of going into the season without Co if we just added a average vet CB from somewhere.

    In 2009 we didn't have 2 elite CBs starting, and our D actually fared better.

    This whole offseason I wanted it to be about Sanchez, for whatever reason the Jets want no part of Braylon and now are going to trade Cotch. Cotch may of had his worst season last year but you could tell he was still Mark's security blanket, mostly.
     
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    Hahaha please become a mod :p
     
  3. Vorrecht

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    Someone else said Burress was 38 and that's why I made the comment.
     
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    He really doesn't make enough to be restructured. Almost half of his cap hit comes from his signing bonus. You can't restructure that. The only thing to do if you foresee money trouble next year is trade him and accelerate the hit.

    Cellar-door mentioned this explicitly, and I alluded to it, but here's our salary cap status for 2012:

    http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary12.html

    That's $88 million in money on the cap. This does not include:

    Santonio Holmes (with the tiny cap hit this year, he likely drives the number up to $100 million)
    Antonio Cromartie (let's assume $6.5 million, which pushes it to $106.5 million)
    David Harris (If he signs for, say, $7 million per, we can assume at least $5 million, pushing it to $115.5 million)
    Eric Smith (Assuming $2 million on the cap next year, $117.5 million)
    Wayne Hunter (Assuming $2.5 million on the cap next year, $120 million)
    Current rookies (Assume $3.5 million)

    $123.5 million. Pace and Scott can't be restructured next year, and they were the MOST friendly restructures for 2012. Sanchez can save up to $4-5 million on the cap.

    So, we're looking at $118 million at best in 2012. This year's cap was $120 million. The cap will rise next year, but how much? Will it be comfortable for us or allow us to sign FAs (Bryan Thomas, LT, Plax all disappear off the payroll)? Trading Cotch this year saves us $4 million next year.

    If Tanny picks anyone else up this season, it'll probably be a one year deal. There's just no room available next season, and he's never had this little flexibility with contracts to perform his magic.
     
  5. JCotchrocket

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    He adjusts to a new weapon well. He adjusted well to bringing in one new receiver in 2009. He adjusted well to bringing in one new receiver in 2010.

    We're expecting this guy to adjust well to- with the exception of the shortest tenured wide receiver- a completely new wide receiver corps.

    The kid doesn't do "Jets West" because it's swell fun. He does it because he's a smart kid and he recognizes that quarterback-receiver chemistry is critically important. There's a reason Tom Brady blew the fuck up last season once the Randy Moss was replaced by Deion Branch. It sure as shit isn't because Deion Branch is more talented than Randy Moss.
     
  6. DarrelleRevis.Human?

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    Think of how much better the chemistry was between Sanchez and Braylon last season, imagine how it could be this season.

    Getting Braylon back is the only way this makes sense.

    Even then I would have rather done it another way
     
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    Gives you a sense of why the team spent that last pick on Scotty McKnight. Even though they've never played together on a team, they have a definite rapport and chemistry.
     
  8. MaximusPrime

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    ^This.

    Cotchery is a stand up, all around excellent guy that you'd want as your team mate. I despise the idea of this move entirely.
     
  9. FJF

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    S.smith is coming off a big injury.nicks isn't exactly durable.the fact that they made an offer to plax says they aren't thrilled at wr.

    And they are not getting a first fot osi

    Nit saying the giants would do it.but it wouldnt be a bad deal
     
  10. JetsUK

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    before the lockout ended everyone figured we would need to pay Cro 7-9m to keep him
     
  11. MadBacker Prime

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    That makes sense then, because he's making $8.


    Hey you, good job! :up:
     
  12. JCotchrocket

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    Precisely. I'm not going to suggest that Scotty McKnight is going to take the NFL by storm, but there's a valid reason why drafting McKnight is a better decision than drafting a more-talented Dane Sanzenbacher.

    Like I said, I'm trying very to hard to not let sentimentality influence my opinion of these developments, and I just can't see how this is a smart move for the team. I can't envision a scenario that will benefit Mark Sanchez in 2011 that involves losing the one receiver that has been here for the duration of his short career.
     
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    And J-Co isn't exactly coming off a insignificant injury either. Even if Smith missed time, they have Manningham. If he didn't miss time, J-Co would be fighting for the #3 WR spot there, not exactly worth it to the Giants.

    They don't exactly have to move him for pennies either, which a 3rd and J-Co would be...
     
  14. MadBacker Prime

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    Cotchery is still recovering from his backiotomy, that's a hell of an injury.
     
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    Of course our d fared better, we had injuries in 2010 we did not have in 09. Revis, Leonhard. Hell we even had Jenkins for a while before he went down in 09, unlike last year he went down in game 1. we were still a top 5 defense despite those injuries.
     
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    Tanny clearly said "i believe we are set at the WR position".

    One of the draft pick is going to be #3. Were trading cotch either for draft picks or a defensive player for cotch + pick/s
     
  17. Mr Electric

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    If Cotchery's traded, another receiver will be acquired. ...either through a trade or we'll just pick up a vet free agent.
     
  18. kaboom

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    Just sayin.

    That other than the heroic catch JC made with a pulled hammy and another one in the NE playoff game, Cotch had a very poor 2010 season. Numerous drops on catchable balls and he was never a big seperation guy to begin with so drops for Cotch is a big problem.

    It may very well be that with an older Plax (who didn't get any faster in prison) that the Jets Brass feel that swapping Cotch out for another wideout that can stretch the field some more is in the best interest of the offense.

    I am not opposed to the idea, depending upon who they would bring in to play that role. I am opposed to the move it were not connected to bringing in another WR from the outside as I think that it would be too risky to shed a vet like Cotch from an unproven replacement (without a high draft pedigree).
     
  19. FJF

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    Oops forgot about jco's back.
    *backs away slowly*
     
  20. MadBacker Prime

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    Point is we don't need 2 Elite CB's to dominate the league, or win a Super Bowl.

    Actually it's quite rare for a team with 2 elite CB's to win the SB because that usually means they have some glaring holes elsewhere.
     

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