For those calling dirty deal on the owners... http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...e-all-time-they-need-to-make-sure-deals-right Players must take all time they need to make sure deal's right ATLANTA -- Don't tell me there isn't precedent for what NFL owners did Thursday, because there is. In fact, the last time the two sides couldn't reach an agreement on a new CBA, a similar squeeze play was pulled. And it was then-NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw who pulled it. That was 2006, when a frustrated and impatient Upshaw presented owners a take-it-or-leave-it offer before flying off to meetings with his executive board in Hawaii. Owners were given two days to ratify the offer after Upshaw and then-NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue agreed there would be no further negotiations, and, after much debate, they signed off on a long-term deal. Of course, two years later, the owners opted out of it -- one reason they're where they are now -- and there's a lesson there for players today. If there's a hang-up with the owners' plan, it's not in how it was presented. Heck, players pulled the same move five years ago. Nope, it's in the time players have to react. There's not much of it before they're asked for their approval. But here's the difference: Where the 2006 offer was a take-it-or-leave-it deal, owners insist this one is not. Moreover, they say that virtually all of its contents have been negotiated -- with general counsel Jeff Pash maintaining that "there are no surprises in there." Nevertheless, they say they're open to discussion on items that players might consider contentious or worthy of more talk. "It was an agreement that was the result of so much compromise on our part and their part," said Philadelphia owner Jeffrey Lurie. "It was the kind of thing that was a win-win for everybody. "This was not one of those agreements where one side has any advantage whatsoever. It's a win for the sport. I know nobody in the [owners'] room was gleeful. It was a difficult and long negotiation, but always the thought was that we could get a 10-year agreement that was at least reasonable."
This is a pile of crap. If the owners didn't love it then why were there no votes against? It is clear that this was an owner friendly proposal.
Yeah, the players are getting fucked over.hmy: Economics * Salary cap plus benefits of $142.4 million per club in 2011 ($120.375 million for salary and bonus) and at least that amount in 2012 and 2013. *Beginning in 2012, salary cap to be set based on a combined share of “all revenue,” a new model differentiated by revenue source with no expense reductions. Players will receive 55 percent of national media revenue, 45 percent of NFL Ventures revenue, and 40 percent of local club revenue. * Beginning in 2012, annual “true up” to reflect revenue increases or decreases versus projections. *Clubs receive credit for actual stadium investment and up to 1.5 percent of revenue each year. * Player share must average at least 47 percent for the 10-year term of the agreement. * League-wide commitment to cash spending of 99 percent of the cap in 2011 and 2012. * For the 2013-2016 seasons, and again for the 2017-2020 seasons, the clubs collectively will commit to cash spending of at least 95 percent of the cap. * Increases to minimum salaries of 10 percent in Year 1 with continuing increases each year of the agreement. Player health and safety * Immediate implementation of changes to promote player health and safety by: 1. Reducing the off-season program by five weeks, reducing OTAs from 14 to 10; 2. Limiting on-field practice time and contact; 3. Limiting full-contact practices in the preseason and regular season; 4. Increasing number of days off for players. * Opportunity for current players to remain in the player medical plan for life. * An enhanced injury protection benefit of up to $1 million of a player’s salary for the contract year after his injury and up to $500,000 in the second year after his injury. * No change to the 16-4 season format until at least 2013; any subsequent increase in the number of regular-season games must be made by agreement with the NFL Players Association. * $50 million per year joint fund for medical research, healthcare programs, and NFL Charities, including NFLPA-related charities. 2011-2012 transition rules * Special transition rules to protect veteran players in 2011. All teams will have approximately $3.5 million in what would otherwise be performance-based pay available to fund veteran player salaries. * Each club may “borrow” up to $3 million in cap room from a future year, which may be used to support veteran player costs. * In 2012, each club may “borrow” up to $1.5 million in cap room from a future year. Both these amounts would be repaid in future years.
The Economics section represents an estimated $7.5B loss for the players over the life of the loan as compared to their position in 2009. You think the Health and Safety section comes anywhere close to that?
Thejetsblog.com has a nice update on some of the salary cap stuff. Such as the 99% of cap is league-wide, not per club. http://www.thejetsblog.com/2011/07/22/simulcast-an-update-on-the-new-salary-cap/#more-40856 "9. As earlier discussed by us at TJB, the cash salary guarantees were wildly overblown by the media. On a leaguewide basis cash salary must total 99% of the cap the next two years. That does not mean per team. In other words, if the Jets spend 140 million in cash and the Bills spend 100 million the league is in compliance. Starting in 2013, each team will have to spend 89% of the salary cap in cash, over a 4 year period. That means that if a team is filled with dead money they don’t have to overspend in cash that year to reach the minimum. They have 4 years to spend it, so if the salary cap was $120 million from 2013-2017 each team has to spend around $427 million to be in compliance with the CBA."
Based on what revenue projections? From what I've heard the pie should be upwards of $20 billion by the end of the term, and that's without an 18 game schedule. You also need to take into consideration WHO is losing money. We were on a trajectory in which there is a kid right now who's a sophomore in high school who would go number one overall and make $100 million guaranteed without ever taking an NFL snap. Rookies got hosed. Agents got hosed. Veterans win. Owners win. Not a terrible compromise.
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they are probably going to review it over the weekend and vote on either monday or tuesday They have to get it signed by tuesday because wednesday starts free agency
The NFL owners have revised their position from Thursday. It appears the grand announcement they made was premature as the schedule depended on the players also approving their offer on Thursday. It now appears that there is a day for day slip in the owners proposed schedule as long as the player don't rubber stamp the proposal. In other words, it aint over yet.
Fixed this. Fans win because the drafted rookies have to get great numbers for 4 years to get that big contract. They can't Gholston it up. I love it. It will be interesting in Drafts too, because teams will be more eager to trade into the top 10.
Definitely. There should be a lot of movement in 2012. I hope a team that doesn't have QB issues has the #1 overall pick in 2012. It'll be funny to see how much a team gives up for the "Andrew Luck" pick. It will be so fucking valuable that some QB needy team will give up tons for it.
Yeah that's what I had in mind and also that's exactly why the rookie wage scale affects more things than just rookie salaries. Drafts will be amazing.
