Holmes to be Redskins "Primary Objective"?

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  1. Jetfan76

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    Think If Santonio sees this he would think twice?
     
  2. Klaus Casanova

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    You really cannot count out the Snyder factor in this equation. He loses his sanity when marquis Free Agents become available. And he is ever obsessively controlling, no matter recent organizational changes.

    These rumors can also be sport of a psychological move on the Jets' part, should they be confident that their previously placed Restricted Free Agent tenders hold up after the lockout. Inflate the ego of a peacock game breaker while lighting a burner under a past under achiever in Edwards.
     
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    I agree with this, especially now that he's repped by CAA, I especially do not want to overpay for Cro. I really don't, given the contact issues, etc. What do you guys think Cro will command/want?

    It's Aso on one tier, he'll set the market, but then that next tier of guys, Cro, Joseph, etc... I don't mind us picking up another CB, there are a lot of CBs in FA, or there will be.
     
  4. MBGreen

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    Am I missing something.... Did the Skins cut Haynesworth?

    Unless the salary cap balloons considerably...I don't think Snyder will be freewheeling with his wallet as much as everyone thinks he will. Perhaps a significant signing, maybe two....but the shopping cart won't be full, imo. Also, I think Snyder might've learned from past FA mistakes.
     
  5. RochesterJet

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    Personally, I am in the camp of Sign Braylon first. A 6’5 receiver who is under the age of 30, who is a deep threat, willing to go over the middle, and devastating run blocker is a rare breed. While tone-time is flashy, exciting, and demands more attention; I just get the feel that we will see his production decline over 2-3 years as speed and athleticism (wear and tear) catch up with him. You can’t teach size and someone who still has a chip on his shoulder like Braylon will be more effective longer in his career! If Tone wants his payday, then so be it, go get it. If he wants to take a fare deal after we sign Braylon, then we welcome you with open arms; we should not break the bank for a guy who has 2-3 years left of “elite” athleticism left and that isn’t know for blocking.
     
  6. Coach K

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    when your making a SB run i think its a tad stupid to rely on Wilson to just step in and pick up where Cro left off. thats just me though. it says alot about depth (or lack thereof).

    that being said thats the thing that pisses me off most of Cro. the lack of tackling ill take it when u can get INT's. but as far as Bump n Run coverage almost nobody is as nasty as Cro.

    but like you said hes either draped on a WR or 8 yards off letting them get chicken shit catches and YAC.

    Johnathan Joseph will probably cost more than Cro. IMO. thats why i hadnt dropped his name.

    either way I have faith in Wilson but im not on the coaching staff.

    honestly as long as we keep Edwards, extend Harris and bring in either Dawan Landry or an OLB ill be cool.

    the last thing i want to see though is Holmes at 10+ a yr
     
  7. alwaysthejets

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    Some Washington Redskins people claim, speculate they are $50Mish under what the salary cap or floor would be. Don't know if it's accurate, someone else will have to verify that, but allegedly they have money to spend. I don't know how it's possible, but...
     
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    I agree with most of what your said here, coach.

    My only discrepancy is the SB run comment on Wilson. He's being counted on, and will get his chance whether we like it or not. Unless he fails miserably (ie Gholston), I believe KW will be relied upon heavily this season....You and I both know that investing a 1st round pick in someone usually means they'll figure heavily into the team gameplan after the 1st year of development, if they don't catch on right away.

    If KW stinks it up....then your statement has validity. But we won't know until they start playing the games...or in Training Camp at the very least.

    Having said this., if the Jets go out and sign a big name CB free agent, that will say alot about where they think KW is in his development.
     
  9. Klaus Casanova

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    If we have learned anything about Daniel Snyder over the past decade, it is that [a.] he NEVER learns from his mistakes, and [b.] he ALWAYS finds room somewhere under the Salary Cap to overspend on a player.

    The Snyder Factor is almost as prominent in today's world as Murphy's Law.
     
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    We won't be relying on Wilson either way, if we lose Cro we'll be signing another corner or 2. There are plenty of corners available, some we could get cheaper than cro who will give us similar production.
     
  11. MBGreen

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    I'm not a fan of the Snyder factor.


    I dont' think the Skins fans themselves are fans either.
     
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    I'm not going to lie, this is so true. If there were just TWO teams who I did not want trying to bid on our players, it was the Redskins and the Raiders. Ugh.
     
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    Maybe ... but it's hard to put a value on loving going to work every day. Santonio got a small taste of what it means to win in NY last year. I have to believe he'd rather stick around for the whole meal rather than finish in 4th place for the next 3 or 4 years. He also saw what playing for Rex was like, and Shannahan has a reputation for being a bit of a scumbag to work for.
     

  14. Of the two, I think I'd rather have Edwards, for the reasons listed, especially the part about his run blocking.

    That said, I think the Jets may be more confident about keeping him, so they may target Holmes first, in their plan to keep both.
     
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    I'm sure Holmes enjoys playing for Rex...but he didn't exactly give Schotty a glowing endorsement after the AFC title game last January.


    That will factor in his decision, I'm sure.
     
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    Wait ... doesn't this belong in the "Schotty Sucks" thread?? :wink:
     
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    I'd rather have the guy that scores the touchdowns. Let the kickers tackle.
     
  18. MBGreen

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    heh.

    Holmes made his disdain for Schotty pretty clear after that game.

    I'm thinking he's gone....the guy has his ring, Super Bowl MVP trophy, and whatnot....he'll be looking for a big payday.

    If the Jets overpay for this guy (like in excess of 10 million per year) and let Braylon go to another team....I'll be a tad miffed.
     
  19. Andy_M

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    +1....unfortunately, I think that is a distinct possibility though.

    I agree with most of what you said earlier about KW as well, except I do think the Jets go out and get another experienced corner if Cro goes elsewhere. Even if you plan on using KW, you have to have a back up plan....he is too inexperienced. Manning or Brady would have seen enough film to torch him in a PO game. Remember...he's opposite the best corner in football.
     
  20. MBGreen

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    Correct, the Jets will go after another CB if Cro goes elsewhere. However, will it be a high priced starting cover corner (J.Joseph, Aso, Carlos Rogers for example) or will KW assume the starting CB position opposite Revis, prompting the Jets to go after a cheaper option to play inside and cover the slot (E.Wright, R.Hood for example).


    Or, with our luck...we'll resign Drew Coleman to play the slot. :wink:
     

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