If the next CBA is like the last one then the Jets could get compensatory draft picks in the 2012 draft. The formula isn't disclosed but roughly speaking they give every good free agent signing a value (3rd round - 7th round) and if the guys you lost have more value than the guys you signed you get some picks. Holmes, Edwards, and Cromarite are all very likely to yield 2012 3rd round picks if they sign elsewhere, but only if the Jets don't sign comparable players. (Cromartie might be a fourth or fifth, it's still too soon to say). If the Jets lose Edwards but sign, say, Sidney Rice than they may not get a compensatory pick.
seems like everybody is forgetting these things called transition tags, which holmes has on him, and after the new cba he still will have on him.
We used those tags asssuming we could be using the old rules, that isn't going to be the case so he will be an unrestricted FA.
Well I think he may be referring to the transition tag which is like the franchise tag but you can't use both at the same time so it's null & void anyway
In the end, I think (and in previous posts I said I didnt want Moss) that we end up with Tone and Randy Moss. Moss's agent is doing his best to sell Randy. if we do end up with him, it better be a one year incentive laden deal. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6768491/agent-old-randy-moss-ready-return-2011 Also as much as I want Braylon and Tone back, I don't think it will happen. Cotchery is a more than capable #2. He had some tough moments last year, but the guy was playing hurt and its not like he hasnt produced in every other previous season. I do think if they resign Tone and not Braylon, they will need to sign a deep guy like Moss. If they sign Braylon and not Tone, I think they will try and make do with Braylon and Cotch, involve Keller, go for an inexpensive 3rd WR from free agency more and see what you get out of Kerley. God forbid there is an injury........
They are talking about a right of first refusal which is different than the old tags as I don't think we'd get compensation if we lost him. I would hope if those rules apply that it never comes to another team signing him an offer, I expect it will get done before FA begins(I assume they will give teams a window to sign their FAs before FA begins).
I don't know if Dan Graziano is reliable, but he's claiming in an article on the ESPN NFC blog that he's heard that the Jets don't have intentions of losing Santonio, not even to Washington, even if that comes at the expense of other players. Is the ESPN NFC guy reliable? He said on his twitter he doesn't have as many sources as LaCanfora but he has sources he's heard that from. He even reiterated on his Twitter that he was sure Redskins had interest in Holmes and Yanda, but didn't think they'd be able to get them. So maybe that is indicative of the fact that the Jets will use that window of time and lock Santonio up, or maybe they really are prepared to bid, I guess they knew when they didn't franchise him, this was going to happen. And given final league year rules, while they had a transition tag to use in conjunction with the franchise tag, the final league year rule stipulates if you use the franchise tag, you can only use the transition tag on a player with six years accrued, so they couldn't transition Santonio, he was a year short. They could have under those rules transitioned Braylon, however. Would something like the right of first refusal help the Jets with Santonio? I don't know quite how it works. Is it like a franchise tag, or-? Randy Moss and Santonio have the same agent, Joel Segal, so any dealings with the Jets in regards to WR on the Moss topic would be interesting. As an aside, Joel also reps, from the Jets, Kyle Wilson, and draftee Bilal Powell, I believe.
You can't really blame Holmes here....he has his ring and his "big moment", now he wants to be paid up front. Most likely Holmes will get lazy with this big deal and may be a problem but it won't be the Jets problem... Edwards still has a chip on his shoulder, he may be the better fit in the long run.
If Edwards just goes for the money he's making a mistake. All he ahs to do is look back at the Cle situation, paid well but they stunk and he was miserable. i think he'll go somewhere(or stay) for less if the situation isn't right.
My sense is that the Jets pounce on Holmes with a big deal early. The next priority would be Cro. But for Edwards, I sense the Jets may wait until the other two are in-house, then talk to Sanchez and see if he would be willing to restructure to keep Braylon, based on their chemistry. That may be the way the Jets play these cards.
Evan Silva per Twitter a few weeks ago said he thought the Jets would be prepared to pay give Holmes a huge deal, he said something in the 5yr/$50M range, and Albert Breer seems to think the Jets are confident they won't be outbid and they will get Holmes back, he's said it on his Twitter in the past months, and he's said it on NFLTA, as recently as last week or the week prior. IF any of that is even remotely accurate... Washington does have a new GM now. They have money to spend, but he's allegedly not as crazy as that last guy they had at GM. I really do have to wonder if the Jets are going to do exactly what SackExchangeNYJ is saying. Just jump on him, and not worry about.
Well, it depends on the confidence the team has in Wilson right now. The lockout may have hindered his development, and that might make Cro more of a priority.
this i agree with. although i also believe he played way better than most fans around here give him credit for. that being said if I could have Cro and Edwards instead of Holmes id do it. either way I dont expect to see Holmes stay, and if he stays Ill probably be bitching about a 10 mil a yr contract which were already overpaying sanchez for.
If he has fewer sources than Jason LaCanfora, that is a blow to his credibility in itself. JLaC has proven to be the least trustworthy in a crop of high profile NFL insiders in this business. I suppose it may have something to do with the NFL not supplying dumpsters full of money on the doorstep of reliable team sources around the league, as the competing networks do on a regular basis.
Confidence or not...the Jets invested a 1st round draft choice in Wilson...he's going to see one of those 2 starting CB positions sooner rather than later. Plus, we all know the Jets aren't shy when it comes to Free Agency...and there are better options than Cromartie out there (Jonathan Joseph for example) available to Tanny. Cro played well when he played close to the LOS....when he was playing off the line, he was getting burned consistently (by guys like Welker). Personally, I won't shed a tear if we lose Cro...the guy still doesn't like contact, which drives me nuts. He's made some big plays, but not enough for me to want him back. If he's resigned, I could live with that too.
