Theres been tons of threads about which guy is most clutch needed etc etc but none about who is the most overrated. Sanchez excluded who do you think the most overrated Jet on this team is ? And thank god guys like Woodhead, and Leon Washington arent still on the team or this would be far less interesting. Personally id go with Calvin Pace. People think hes so much better than he actually is simply because we really dont have any other OLBs.
antonio cromartie. out of the 19 games(including playoffs) he probably had 7 good games, 7 bad games, and 5 ok games. he can't stop anything short and doesn't tackle. i'm not saying he's bad but he's not an elite corner IMO. he's good, but on the 3rd tier. tier 1 is revis and aso. tier 2 there's a bunch of the really good corners like champ bailey, asante samuel, devin mccourty, tramon williams...cro is a tier below those.
Mark Sanchez excluded? He's not overrated. Jets' fans that know football don't think Calvin Pace is any good. Jimmy Leonhard and Brad Smith are both overrated by a lot of people on this board. Smith is close to worthless as a receiver. He is an extremely valuable special teamer - no doubt about that. He won't be worth the money he'll demand though. Someone will overpay him. Leonhard is an undersized over-achiever. I like what he brings to the team, but I'd love to see the safety position upgraded with a more talented player.
Devin McCourty is better than Antonio Cromartie? Are you kidding me? Also, Leon Washington is a faggot.
Sanchez is a little overated mostly because of his position and his potential. The guy has had some absolutely epic come backs last year and was clutch in the playoffs, but there are plenty of jet fans who think this guy is a top 10-15 qb right now. Theres no doubt hell get there, but hes still got a long way to go. Last year he was pretty inconsistent to say the least
Yeah Smith and Leonhard both were the first two to come to mind for me as well. I think Westhoff just brings so much to special teams that anyone who returns kicks would do damn well (ala Cromartie in his few returns). And the Seminal is so rarely used that it can hardly be considered a difference maker. Leonhard I also thought about, but then remembered how much our secondary struggled after his injury. And while he is undersized, his role as the QB of the defense is definitely noticeable in his absence.
Shonn Greene. I realize he's young but people treat him like he's much better than he has actually played IMO
Guys like Sanchez and Greene aren't really that overrated. Most people know what they are. The true homers will take it too far. So let's not get crazy about them. We have to focus on the guys that are across the board overrated. Brad Smith fits that role. He's just like Leon - a role player who is easily replaced. Pace has had good moments but he's in his 30s and shouldn't be looked at as the answer at OLB. He should be the compliment to someone on the other side. Sadly, the Jets don't have that stud LB, they have Thomas.
Agreed in that he is unproven and has yet to play a full season as a starting back. His potential is nice though.
Both safety positions need to be upgraded. Leonhard, as you said, is undersized, older, and coming off a major injury. I don't see how anyone could be satisfied with either Smith or Pool as long-term starters. Neither are spectacular in coverage and Smith makes too many dumb decisions that draw yellow flags. Lowery is a question mark at this point. He made some good plays last season but he had some that were absolutely retarded as well. He needs to learn when to play for the tackle rather than the turn-over. He was a baller in college and I know he has the potential to be a starter but until he proves that he's good enough to do it full-time, he's not good enough to be more than a rotational guy.
yes he is. if you watched a patriot game mccourty stood out. what an outstanding rookie season. cro got flat out picked on at times. and like i said, he can't stop underneath stuff. he sucks at covering slants.
RunDevinRun, I heard there's room on the Gaytriots' bandwagon. I'm sure they'll offer you a seat. I'm never biased when it comes to debating the pro game. Plain and simple, McCourty is not better than Cromartie.
When you have Revis on the other side, you are going to get picked on. If McCourty had Revis on the other side and was asked to do what Cromartie was asked he would have been exposed. In another year McCourty will probably be better, but as a rookie he was not better than Cromartie.
True Jet fans know the value of Sanchez, so excluded or not you cannot call the guy overrated. McCourty had a hell of a season as a rookie, you couldn't have asked for more outta the guy. If you can get that much production as a rookie, you surpassed your expectations but as of right now he is not better than Cro. He has the potential to be better but right now Cromartie is the better NFL player. If McCourty can continue to learn and grow as an NFL player then there's no doubt he will challenge Cromartie for the second best cornerback in the AFC East. Leonhard is the easy choice here though. He's a fan favorite and does lead that defense when he is healthy and playing but as an undersized safety teams send their big tight ends at us and can usually hit us all day if we don't adjust.
Some of you guys are out of your mind! Bart Scott is a glorified cheerleader, so why is he not mentioned. For the deal he has he's contributed much less then other players mentioned. Jim Leonard was never brought aboard to be a a lights out safety. He was brought aboard ti quarter back the defense and put people in the spots to be productive. On the offensive side of the ball Id say that Dustin Keller is the overrated player. He has show out moments and then disappears for multiple games.
He was last year by a pretty wide margin. Cromartie is w/o a doubt our most overrated player. good player, is a little up and down but most jet fans act like he is almsot on a level w/ revis. I think Jim Leonhard is underrated, I'm not saying he's a great player but he's very valuable to that defense.
