Franzman Round 1 Mock

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  1. franzman9

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    1 Carolina- Cameron Newton QB Auburn

    2 Denver- Marcell Dareus DT Alabama

    3 Buffalo- Nick Fairley D Auburn

    4 Cincinnati- Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri

    5 Arizona- Patrick Peterson CB LSU

    6 Cleveland- Von Miller OLB Texas A&M

    7 San Francisco- Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson

    8 Tennessee- Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska

    9 Dallas- Tyron Smith OT USC

    10 Washington- A.J. Green WR Georgia

    11 Houston- Robert Quinn OLB North Carolina

    12 Minnesota- Julio Jones WR Alabama

    13 Detroit- Brandon Harris CB Miami (FL)

    14 St Louis- Corey Liuget DT Illinois

    15 Miami- Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College

    16 Jacksonville- Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue

    17 New England- Cameron Jordan DE California

    18 San Diego- J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin

    19 NY Giants- Stefen Wisniewski OC Penn State

    20 Tampa Bay- Aldon Smith OLB Missouri

    21 Kansas City- Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State

    22 Indianapolis- Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple

    23 Philadelphia- Jimmy Smith CB Colorado

    24 New Orleans- Martez Wilson OLB Illinois

    25 Seattle- Jake Locker QB Washington

    26 Baltimore- Leonard Hankerson WR Miami

    27 Atlanta- Justin Houston DE Georgia

    28 New England- Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin

    29 Chicago- Stephen Paea DT Oregon State

    30 NY Jets- Brooks Reed OLB Arizona

    31 Pittsburgh- Jason Pinkston OG Pittsburgh

    32 Green Bay- Akeem Ayers ILB UCLA
     
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  2. franzman9

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    Rest of Draft continued....

    Round 3 (pick 94) Ahmad Black FS Florida

    Round 4 (pick 127) Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton

    Round 6 (pick 195) Charlie Bryant DE Memphis

    Round 7 (pick 208) Aldrick Robinson WR SMU
     
  3. franzman9

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    If the board fell this way, I wouldnt mind if the Jets traded up two spots to grab Justin Houston!
     
  4. NDmick

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    Overall draft is okay. Some too high and I don't think AJ Green can fall that far. He's too good. Someone would trade up to get him if he falls that far.

    Black and Ellis are both risky picks. They either do well in this league or bust out entirely.

    Robinson is a good pick, I just don't know if he lasts till pick 200.
     
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    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Stay at 30 and take Reed.

    Houston has more red flags than him.
     
  6. franzman9

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    I jut dont see any of those teams in the top 9 have WR as their biggest need, I agree if he fell that far a team would trade up to get him, but for this draft I left all the teams in their slots.

    I appreciate the feedback!
     
  7. MobiusOne28

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    I think you can definitely make the case for Cincy or Cleveland of the teams currently there. I think it's definitely plausible that Cincy tries to appease to Palmer by getting him a new gift at receiver.
     
  8. IIMeanDeanII

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    I like this draft overall.

    Ummm.. I'm lazy right now, so I will just stick with a few things I feel. ha

    I think Ahmad Black is underrated a lot. His speed might be an issue, but you can't deny the kid in college. He is clutch, simply put. He played really good, against some top notch teams/QB's. He was a playmaker in college and he was all over the football. I like him a lot, and I think he is going to have a good career.

    I know everyone is in love with Brooks Reed. I like him too, but I'm starting to fall out of favor for him. There are some things that I'm just not digging from him, and I think he might be a little over hyped. I know that is going against the grain, but I'm starting to think he shouldn't be in the first round.
     
  9. Rockefella

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    I'd rather the jets take Paea than just about any OLB still available at 30 but that's just me. I think the DL is the biggest need and by getting a potential monster NT/DE our pass rush improves by proxy. hopefully we can find a replacement for Bryan Thomas in the 3rd round.
     
  10. joeklecko

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    Who?? There's a much better chance of finding a quality NT or DE in the 3rd round than there is a quality OLB. If the Jets don't like Reed and don't want to reach for an OLB, I believe their best best of addressing both the OLB position and DL is to trade down into the 2nd round, take either Sam Acho or Jabal Sheard, and then take the DL in the 3rd round. All of the faster, better prospects at OLB are usually gone by the 3rd round. I read an article a year or two ago that broke down the top 2 players at each position for every team in the NFL, whether they were drafted or UFAs, and if drafted, in what round. I don't remember exactly what the statistics were for OLBs, but I believe that most of them were higher draft picks. In just thinking about the top pass-rushing OLBs in the game, I can't think of too many (actually any at the moment) who were mid-to-lower round picks or UFAs.
     
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    Pretty good, but some of those guys don't belong in the first round
     
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    James Harrison
    Joey Porter(Body of work)
    Cam Wake
    Shaun Phillips

    And Kevin Greene was a 5th Rd pick, he was the best ever to play the position.

    Just off the top of my head...
     
  13. franzman9

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    Every year there are guys that go in the first round that no one thinks Would have went so early. Can you be more specific?
     
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    Pinkston and Wisenewski, Wisenewski is 2nd round pick and Pinkston is a 3rd round pick at best
     
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    Wilson, borderline first rounder.

    Pinkston, end of the second to third rounder

    Hankerson, borderline first rounder but should go in the second. Baldwin should be picked over him.

    Jimmy Smith, great talent but a douchebag, could be picked by Eagles and Packs but his stock is dropping.

    Jake Locker, he could be reached for but Ponder, Mallet, Kaepernick and maybe Dalton are better. More of a 2nd or 3rd rounder, but should be IMO 3rd to 4th rounder.
     
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    Magilla, thanks for the names. The only problem with that is that Tanny doesn't usually keep those lower round picks. He burns them trading up, so the Jets chances of finding someone in those lower rounds is small. Tanny's done an outstanding job in the 4th round, but imo his biggest weakness as a GM is that he never seems to find any great players in the lower rounds like some teams almost routinely do. They've had good success with UFAs, but I'd like to see him ferret out some talent in those lower rounds.
     
  17. Rockefella

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    No one looks too appealing at OLB by the time we pick, Brooks Reed is the only guy I like around the end of RD 1. I'd rather try and pick up an elite NT/DE to improve the DL which frankly isn't all that great. They're solid against the run because they don't penetrate the trenches. It's not too difficult to stop runners when you hold your position and clog the running lanes in time for the play to come to you.

    The pass rush IMO needs a DL upgrade just as much as a new OLB. You can plug Demarcus Ware in at OLB for the Jets and I think you'd see a drop in his game because our DL gets very little pressure on its own. They make up for the lack of raw talent with intelligence and technique. Sure, Rex's defense isn't designed around the defensive line but that's no excuse for ignoring a needed upgrade there. Pouha and DeVito are great in their own respect but they're no world-beaters. Having a guy like Jenkins is tremendous, although the defense didn't miss a beat after his injury in 2009. Maybe a testament to the Rex Ryan overload heat that the league seemed to figure out by 2010.

    Regarding Jabaal Sheard.. I don't want him. He runs like he has 10 pounds of shit in his pants. He's talented but standing up he looks slow and stiff. High motor or not he's of that Bryan Thomas mold imo.
     
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  18. NDmick

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    Reed and Houston are as risky as Paea at 30. Same for Ayers. There is no elite NT at 30. Phil Taylor could be there, even he's not an elite prospect at NT.

    Its DeMarcus Ware. He'd have the same numbers.
     
  19. Rockefella

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    I probably shouldn't have used elite. I feel more confident in a guy like Paea (even after the injury) than I do the OLB around at that point in the draft. Maybe the Gholston pick is still making me tentative.. IDK.

    Maybe. I'm not sure how much more successful a plug-in OLB will be over what we have. Would Demarcus Ware get 10 sacks as a jet? Probably, but the ceiling for our pass rush is capped by the lack of pressure/penetration from the DL.
     
  20. laxin

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    I hear what you are saying Rockefella but i just dont know any OLB that could start for us if we dont take them in the first. Dontay Moch has a high ceiling, but is a piece of work. Im sure there are others like chris carter but its a very tough pick.
     

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