Drafttek.com 2011 Jets Mock Draft and 7 round links (2.22.11) To see explanations click this link: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1_17-32.asp Im seeing a little spark in this Draft Forum again, of course since its the off-season. So I decided to post the Jets picks from the site to get some dicussion following. As well as links to rounds 1-7 to see who we could of or should of picked up. NY Jets 2011 Draft: 1st Round:Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor 3rd Round:Sam Acho, OLB, Texas 4th Round:Quinton Carter, FS, Oklahoma 5th Round:Joseph Barksdale, ROT, LSU 6th Round:Brandon Bair, 3-4 DE, Oregon 7th Round:Mario Harvey, SILB, Marshall Links: (1-16): http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1.asp (17-32): http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1_17-32.asp (33-48): http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound2_33-48.asp (49-64): http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound2_49-64.asp Rnd 3: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound3.asp Rnd 4: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound4.asp Rnd 5: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound5.asp Rnd 6: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound6.asp Rnd 7: http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound7.asp
Rather do my usual bashing of Drafttek and all things computers, I will say I'd be VERY happy if that were the Jets draft. Brandon Bair is a heck of a story, and should be a solid contributor wherever he goes. The first three picks would fill a lot of holes and add a tremendous about of talent to the each level of the D (though no way Quinton Carter goes in the 4th, same for Acho in the 3rd).
Yeah carter is a 3rd round guy and Acho is a late 2nd to 3rd round guy. I do disagree sometimes with there rankings on this site, sometimes there dead on , other times there WAY off. Sorta confusing but if this is the way it fell and there stocks fluctuated like this that would be extremely solid. In the end you just never know with the draft.
fuckin love the phil taylor pick...that would be amazing however i suspect he's going to explode after the combine edit: not literally explode...that would be weird. I think he'll have a good combine and move out of our reach.
Phil Taylor.....Round 1...Meh. You guys need to do a little more research. 1) Taylor was nearly 400 pounds in 2009....weight issues?? 2) You really want to invest a Rd 1 pick on a NT that hasn't been very productive over his career. Taylor ain't moving to the 5 slot...so we waste a 1st round pick on a NT, with Pouha on the roster and no upgrade at OLB rusher or DE. Sam Acho isn't going to be available in late rd 3...Q is a pipe dream in rd 4...both could and should be 2nd rd picks...early 3rd at best. IMO, Taylor won't sniff rd 1....let's wait and see.
A lot of this depends on the combine this week and which players jump ahead of which players it really all depends. And By the way i am not in full agreement with this draft by any means, I like it but this is draftteks opinions and generated opinions. Remember if you'd like look back and see if maybe there are some players you'd like instead according to how that draft goes and even change it and see what others think. Get creative. That's the whole other meaning to half of this thread.
UPDATE: This is an ever changing draft on this site keep in mind, many tangibles of players have just changed and now Quinton Carter is all the way in the first round and Acho goes at the end of the second. So here is the updated draft so that can now be dicussed: NY Jets 2011 Drafttek Mock (Updated) 1st Rnd:Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor 3rd Rnd:Dontay Moch, OLB, Nevada 4th RndLawrence Guy, 3-4 DE, Arizona State 5th Rnd:Jospeh Barksdale, ROT, LSU 6th Rnd:Jeremy Kellem, FS, Middle Tennessee 7th Rnd:Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan Seems solid again. Dont like the Taylor pick to much would rather go safety or DE if they felt OLB value wasnt there. Lets see what you guys think yet again.
I like the new one even better, really adds a lot to the line and Moch is just some kind of freak, wouldn't mind seeing what he can do for a late 3rd Don't know much about Kellem but I was wondering what makes him a better pick than Williams from UNC
personally I love Draftek. is it the most reliable site? Of course not. But it gives you the ability to run computer simulations and alter their rankings for needs for all teams to see how a new simulation would work. It gives you the ability to manually make trades to see what would happen if a trade down occured. I like the newest DT iteration. I am a huge fan of lawrence Guy (i see him as a 3rd, but you never know) Dontay Moch is as big a definition of a physical freak as you can give. If you can somehow hone his potential and turn him into a football player he could easily become an unstoppable pash rushing force for Rex. I would like to go on record as saying that I hate Phil Taylor to us at #30. he has way to many question marks, and simply doesn't have the versatility that Rex demands of his DL. I would love to see a trade back into the mid-second where we could easily select a guy like Jarvis Jenkins while adding a pick or two.
I still have no fucking idea how Moch is going to play in this system at 230lbs. Why does everyone think he can play in the 3-4?
In addition, I think I've had it with the physical freaks who have to learn how to become football players (see Gholston) for a while. I'd rather draft an OLB prospect who has the requisite size and has at least played the LB spot and is used to playing in space, dropping into coverage and has the speed and motor to rush the QB. He can be taught pass rush moves. One of the Jets' Ds biggest weakness is covering RBs and TEs over the middle. I know that Moch played LB in college, but everything I have read about him says he is a bit of a project. No thanks. The Jets need a player who can step in and contribute immediately at OLB, not someone who may be able to contribute in a year or three.
thought I would bump this with today's DT simulation mock... Some big surprises in this first round... Starting with a Cam not named Newton going 3 overall to Buffalo... http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1.asp for picks 1-16 http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1_17-32.asp for picks 17-32
Saw that today, was really really surprised at that. I mean Cam is a great player, as Ive said before I like Watt better as a 3-4 DE but at 3? over Peterson, Dareus and Newton its a definite shocker. I also hate the fact that they have us picking Taylor and dont address OLB till i think the 4th or 5th??? Skipping players like Ayers, Houston, AND Sheard. I love the site but it confuses me so much sometimes. I mean Taylor is a -32 , ,meaning his value is in the next round while his position is ranked as the same need as OLB and 3-4 DE for the Jets and Houston and Ayers are positives meaning there valued as a steal of some sort. Really a shock to me.
yeah I also enjoy their explanation for Taylor, he ran a blistering 5.2 40 yard dash at the combine! He also is strictly a 2 down NT, and can't be counted on in pass rush situations. But hey the jets need a giant guy in the middle to make their defense work, so lets give em taylor! Also I added up the value of our draft selections... -121 value for our picks. Thats terrible, with reaches in every round (by DT's standards anyways) Lawrence Guy is the only one with a positive grade + 4 value at the end of the 4th. Personally I would love to see him as a candidate for our 3rd rounder, and I think that would be solid value there...
that's what a computer will do. It'll fuck with things to make it interesting. Tyson Jackson went 3rd overall. We all were shocked and we may have laughed, but Cam Jordan is a can't miss prospect. Only problem is that on the bills, OLs will wash him out of the play because he has no help.
Yeah really confusing stuff, i really hope they edit that soon. Emails can be sent to there Jets Analyst.
Well they have a pretty solid NT, in Kyle Williams over there in Buffalo so Jordan wouldnt be all by himself on that line. Williams isn't Vince Wilfork, but he is easily the Bills best defensive player (not saying much...) and certainly in the top half of the league as far as DT/NT's are concerned. Also I disagree about Jordan being can't miss. He is a damn good prospect, and I am blown away by his combine numbers, I knew he was athletic but jesus thats amazing. The other great part about him is that he backs it up in pads, he isn't a guy who doesn't know how to use his athleticism on the field, he does and takes advantage. But I can't label Jordan a can't miss, that tag (at least for me) is reserved for simply the best players, like Suh last year, and Patrick Peterson this year. Jordan is great, but I don't know if he is that good. As far as jackson going #3 overall, I'm not so sure he was a top 3 talent so much as he was easily the best 3-4 DL in the draft and Pioli wanted him to start being able to build that 3-4 D. I don't think he would have been drafted top 15 that year if not for Pioli wanting him. If KC picked 16, i'm pretty sure he would have been around for them... that said, it doesn't matter if you have top 3 talent if the guy at #3 wants you. I don't think Jordan has top 3 talent (Peterson, Bowers and Fairley are my top 3) but that doesn't preclude him going #3 overall. Don't know why I am arguing with you, he is going to be an exceptional player for somebody in the NFL, and that's really all that matters, just a shame it can't be us.
