Bold Predictions (Draft Day Edition)

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  1. Green Hurricane

    Green Hurricane Footsteps Falco

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    Noooo, some WEBSITES rate Jimmy Smith over Brandon Harris, some websites like your eternal masters over at sideline scouting.

    I'll repeat what I said in my top 50 thread, where I had them back to back at 10 and 11. Harris has potential to excel against any type of WR with his blend of quickness and physicality, Prince may not. At the same time I saw each match up once against an elite WR prospect (Floyd and Blackmon), and Harris fared far better. Also, no idea why Harris would get knocks for his tackling, he's always been a willing and quality participant in stopping the run.

    As for the Miami fan thing, that's really dumb to say. I have never let my being a Canes fan effect my evaluation of players. I had Harris way, way down before the season, but I saw him each week play out of his mind so he got the necessary bump up (as did Hankerson). On the other hand, Allen Bailey continued to be mediocre so he stayed down.
     
  2. NYJ_JD

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    bold statement is bold..

    but I'm praying in a week or two this doesn't seem too unlikely
     
  3. BadgerOnLSD

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    Mistakes will be made.
     
  4. JohnnyThaJet

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    Hahaha, not so much eternal masters. Actually just look to them for some analysis on players I have never watched before.

    Its just my personal opinion that Prince will be able to translate to the game over time alot better then Harris. Reason being is Harris is a little too risky in single coverage for a CB that has #1 potential. He has good athleticism overall and play making ability, but his speed, routes to the ball, and inconsistent tackling make him a liability in certain schemes.

    The Miami thing was an assumption. If it was wrong, my bad on that. I myself would be biased of a certain player if he was on a team I have watched over and over and analyzed previously.

    Also one last thing (Bolded), Didnt Harris struggle a great amount with Micheal Floyd in that Sun Bowl Game? 6 receptions 2 tds 109yrds?
     
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  5. JohnnyThaJet

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    Id say by late March will hear chatter of this thing finally ending. I honestly believe they want to imply a lot of new rules for the draft and NFL and players before the draft so teams can adjust.
     
  6. Green Hurricane

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    Uhh... you're seriously so bad at everything.

    You basically quoted Harris' positives and negatives from SS, the second time you've built an argument solely around them in the past week or so.

    vs.

    What baffled me most is after you plagiarized SS in saying he's good at man coverage and has "good speed", you then knocked his man coverage skills and speed:

    So not only do you not know what you're talking about, you seem to be arguing with yourself.

    Lastly, he played really well against Floyd, his scores came against another corner then on a blown pickup by the safety. On the other hand, Blackmon was manned up against Prince when he had his big plays.
     
  7. Mr Electric

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    Bahahahaha
     
  8. LoyalJetsFan

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    This is not bold...this is expected.
     
  9. Vorrecht

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    Someone will draft Blaine Gabbert in the top 10... and suffer for it.
     
  10. ConcordeChops

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    Jets sign Muhammad Wilkerson
    Vikings trade up to sign Gabbert
    Dolphags draft Jake Locker who becomes a sub-Tebow retard.
    Bowers is pick #1
    Patriots take Watt in 1st rd

    I don't know football.
     
  11. JohnnyThaJet

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    Hmm, so I point out that I respect your opinion and show you gratitude yet you come back and instead of break down the flaws in my argument respectively, you instead try to slap me in the face and disrespect me. Classy of you GH.

    Besides the fact, I should of worded my second post better. Brandon Harris's overall speed, keeping up with other speedy receivers is solid. His recovery speed when beat off the line is my problem with Harris. Thats what I was implying when talking about versing #1 WRs in the NFL without safety help.

    The sideline scout reference is a bit over the top if you ask me, do I refer to their opinions? Yes, I think they are a valid website with good analysis. Many upon MANY scout sites, expert analysis', and respected blogs around here have the same general consensus on Harris as a player, taking shots at his zone play and tackling (against WR's not so much stopping the run or blitzing which I think he does better then most of the CB's in this draft). So how you try and break down SS statements and say I copied and pasted it is a little bit of a stretch.

    We both have to wait to see who has a better career as a player in the NFL. IMO, Prince is a Asante Samuel type player while Harris is more of a Aaron Ross type player. This is my general opinion and you have your own, I respect everyones on hear either way.
     
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  12. Mr Electric

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    ...says the guy that consistently steals his draft "knowledge" from a scouting website.

    I love that you're asking for respect after you had multiple accounts and tried to exploit a dead child during your clusterfuck of an excuse.
     
  13. JohnnyThaJet

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    Whoa hey there bud. Im surprised you stopped over to comment on something of mine instead of furiously masturbating over something that happened a month ago and that is over in others minds.

    "stealing" from other websites, sure go ahead and call it that. I dont have the time to watch over 400+ prospects to gain a steady analysis on each and every player. There in which I read on some websites about certain players and gain opinions on them. I use this sites and others to be able to talk a solid amonut of draft talk. If some of its messy so fucking be it, I have started learning about the draft process and players only a few years ago. I only cared about the NFL, NBA, and MLB and didnt care where teams built through until I realized the magnitude of it. So there in which I do my best to talk about certain prospects instead of being ignorant towards the draft.

    You as a draft analyzer is solid, I respect your opinions and know you have much knowledge in the draft but a great tip for you would be instead of trying to breakdown new posters opinions and try to remove them from this forum why dont you use your knowledge to actually teach and give a solid opinion that others that are new can gain from.

    I didnt ask for "respect", It should be some what implied when a poster has agreed with you in the past. It doesnt have to be that way but it should. Even if I was a new poster with 2 posts some level of respect should be shown, unless you are living some shallow ass lonely life with no respect for another person. Yeah your going to break this all down as classic MR. Electric does and try to turn around each little sentence but have some common decency and stop acting like such a belligerent, doomed filled, asshole.
     
  14. Mr Electric

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    No, I'm just going to break this little sentence down.

    Actually, just two words: common decency

    You found a random website about some kid that died to gain some sort of sympathy from us.

    Honestly, I find it a little fucked up that you weren't banned for being that creepy.

    You can never ask someone to be "decent" on this site ever again.
     
  15. Mr Electric

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    Bold Prediction:

    Akeem Ayers screwed himself today by running consecutive 4.8s
     
  16. WW85

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    Guys ....I've got a great Idea.

    Go to the TT forum.

    Let's stay on topic.
     
  17. JohnnyThaJet

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    Lets just smash this shit already because this is continuously ongoing. My brother knew these kids, he had a problem with there loss, I found out what was going on with him and his problems less then a year after the incident. I never knew them personally and was dumb enough to fuck up the name. This on its own is my fault and I can see how others would try to shoot me down for it.

    These boys went to my middle school, Dwight D Eisenhower, many of my friends that had younger siblings were also effected. The anniversary was and will be a couple days ago and then March. I didnt "google search" some kids death, that isnt at all what happened.

    Before I made the argument about my brother and myself closeness in my family, I should of been 100% on the topic about his lost friends. I live in the same community, shopped at the same stores, and absolutely did not find some community to exploit for a forum argument.
     
  18. JohnnyThaJet

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    Sorry WW this just never stops, I cant even get an opinion out without this being brought up. I apologize for this crap having to be in the draft forum.
     
  19. WW85

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    If Ayers stock drops to late Rd 1, that wouldn't be too bad.

    I still love the player, he has excellent vision and quickness and knows how to tackle.

    Those times were really disappointing. He may be able to make it up at his pro-day.
     
  20. WW85

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    Let's stay on topic in the regular forums.
     

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