I found the following posted at SB Gang Green Nation by someone named crackback. He doesn't state if this is his draft and comments or whether he found it elsewhere, so I have to assume the comments are his. I'm curious what you guys think about his picks and his rationale. I'm also not sure the players will go in the rounds he says they will/might. While I like his reasoning that OLB prospects should be better when they have played LB before, are used to dropping into coverage and playing in space, I know the problem is that Rex likes his OLB's to be in the 260-270 range, and usually college LBers aren't anywhere near that big, so the normal route is to take college DEs who are used to rushing the passer and converting them. I didn't get to watch nearly as many games this year as in previous years, and then it was mostly Auburn, some of the bowl games and the Sr. Bowl, so I don't think I've seen any of these guys play before. I respect some of you guys' knowledge and wonder what you think about these prospects. Thanks in advance. That said, I love addressing the pass rush in round 1. I think we could definitely use a playmaking S in the secondary, but am not sure this is the guy, but think I would also rather take a DE in the 3rd round. I have seen DeMarco Murray play several times before and like him pretty well, but I'd rather see an NT prospect like Powe or Kendrick Ellis in the 4th round if one is still available. If not, unless LT isn't gonna be back, I think I'd' rather them go for OL depth or another DLman if one is the BAP. Jones really seems a little short for LB in Rex's system. What do you guys think? I like the idea of a slot receiver prospect, especially if we can't re-sign both BE and SH. I don't know anything about the kid from Grambling in the 7th round, but if he's already had a heart attack, I don't see how he could ever be cleared to play in the NFL. I don't think I would want the Jets to take him. I'd hate to see him drop dead on the field during a game or practice. That's all the Jets need. Round 1: Martez Wilson, Illinois, LB, 6-4 250 -- Wilson played inside backer in college, but he was the 2nd ranked DE prospect coming out of HS. Genetically, he's a pass rusher. He just looks like a pass rusher. Its a good thing that he played his entire college career inside. He honed his linebacking skills and now he's ready to be unleashed as a 3-4 OLB in the NFL. Most 3-4 teams look for DEs bc of their pass rushing ability, hoping to coach up the linebacking skills as they go along. Often times, however, the transition ends up as a failure because the prospect never gets comfortable out in space. This won't be a problem for Wilson. His skills as a linebacker are already at a high level. All thats left for him to do is to craft his natural pass rushing insticts and abilities. He'd also be the perfect toy for Rex to play around with. He could be moved around from inside to outside without being uncomfortable. He can rush or drop into coverage. Round 3: Robert Sands, Safety, West Virginia, 6-5 225 -- he's big, athletic, nasty mofo. He played FS in college, but I think he would beast at SS. He likes to stick his nose into everything and lay the wood. I think he's athletic enough to start at FS, but his length and athleticism would make him a freak at SS. And then you stick him in Rex's system and let him blitz with his big 6-5 frame up the gut and off the edge and he'd create havoc for opposing QBs. Round 4: DeMarco Murray, RB, Oklahoma, 6-0 215 -- in a word... gifted. He's everything we want LD to be. He's got a big enough frame to bang it inside, and he's a good enough receiver to work out of the slot. He can do it all. He's more of a slasher than a pounder, and he's got unbelievable quickness. He's the reason we cut Tomlinson. And having Greene, Murray, and McKnight will give us a young and versatile trio of backs to leave us set at the position for years. In his final season at Oklahoma, Murray rushed for over 1200 yards and 10 TDs and caught over 70 passes for 500+ yards and another 5 TDs. Round 5: Greg Jones, LB, Michigan State, 5-11 240 -- its probably a bit optimistic that he'll drop this far but i'm guessing his height will cause some slippage, and I haven't seen any mocks that placed him in the top 2 rounds. He's another middle backer by trade that I think will make a nice transition to a 3-4 OLB. This guy is not only a tackling machine, but he's an extremely effective pass rusher as well. In his junior year he had over 150 tackles and he had 9 sacks. [You might have noticed my philosophy of grabbing LBs that show pass rushing ability, rather than grabbing pass rushers and trying to teach them to play LB.] Round 6: Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy, 5-9 190 -- very small and very fast. The guy can blaze and would be an excellent option for the slot. I normally don't like little guys, but I always have room for explosive. He's a former QB, so he understands how to read defenses and can run some wildcat. He's also pulled RB duties, which tells me he knows what to do after the catch. He's the little guy you motion across formation and hit in the flat with a quick pass and watch him scoot and score. Round 7: Christian Anthony, DE, Grambling, 6-3 280 -- Athletic, relentless, violent... all the good things a defensive player should be. Has expressed interest in dropping weight down into the 250s and playing OLB. But he missed the entire 2010 season after suffering a heart attack in August. I saw him play in the Texas vs The Nation game. He made some plays, and he definitely looked like he should be one of the ones playing on Sundays. I'm a sucker for a good comeback story. I like rooting for guys like this. Why not? Theres nothing wrong with gambling on the kid from Grambling with the 7th round pick.
I really love Martez Wilson, I dont know if I love him enough to warrant that selection, pending who was available. Sands, Murray, Jones and Jernigan will all be off the board at least one round a head of where this guy drafted them
I am not a big fan of, Tez Wilson. Especially not in the first round. From what I've seen.. He struggles against shedding blocks, he gets pushed around easily, his change of direction isn't very good, might be injury proned. He is a pretty good tackler, but isn't a hard hitter. Doesn't have that fire. I think he has a good get off, but I personally don't think he has the down field speed, I might be wrong. I don't look at him as much of a pass rusher at all. I can't see him being that playmaking sack artist we are all wishing for. I think he is football smart and doesn't seem to have much trouble understanding coverage. Although I think in college, he thought to much during plays and missed a lot of plays because he didn't go with his gut. I agree he belongs in a 3-4 scheme and I wouldn't mind him as a Jet in round 2, which we don't have, I doubt he will make it to round 3 unless his medical concerns drop him. That could happen. He is built and definetly has the size to be a LB in a 3-4. I personally think he would be best inside, which we obviously don't need. I'm just not impressed with him, and I might be really wrong, if so, I will eat crow. I would much rather have other options in this draft before this guy in the first.
I really like Sands.. and if any of these picks happened during the draft I'd be ecstatic if we could get Sands in the third But thats prob not going to happen
Sands, Murray, Jones and Jerrigan.....all should be long gone. Martez Wilson has been getting a lot of love lately. A great player, but IMO, not the pass rush threat we truly need on the outside. Good call on Christian Anthony, I had him as a potential sleeper months ago.
Wilson will probably be a good player but I don't think he adds much to the pass rush. Looks great in space.. definitely quick but a bit undersized for Rex's 3-4. I bet a team could use him at SS and be successful. This mock doesn't really address the DL so I'm not a fan. No way am I taking a RB and a WR before a NT/DE
It all depends on how you look at Tez Wilson on tape, if you go into thinking strictly ILB, your opinion will not waiver. Forget what position he plays for a second and just watch him play. It's sounds crazy, but transplant those plays to a different position, like DE or OLB. DE was his college destination, Ron Zook went as far as to compare him Simeon Rice, but LB was a bigger need when he got to Illinois, so he never got to touch the ground. Much of the "he doesn't show fire" or "he doesn't look like he's giving his all" can be contributed to his gliding running style. Eric Dickerson took a lot of shit from coaches for the same reason. His athleticism makes it easy for him. His East-West speed, and Noth-South for that matter, are really off the charts for a ILB. He has the size of Raiders' MLB Rolando McClain, but the athleticism of a wide out. A big part of the draft process is projection and you know what, I see him as a 3-4 OLB. He has a long frame to pack on 10-20 pounds to make him 6-4, 260-270, longer arms than the likes of Julius Peppers and Dwight Freeney, and speed to burn at the LB position. Wilson has his problems with shedding and has a habit of overrunning among other things, I will not deny that, but no prospect is a complete product. Wilson or a former DE both have half the needs of a Rush OLB, abeit different sides. With Wilson, he already has all the LB aspects down, but isn't a proven commodity rushing the passer, regardless if he has the ability to become one or not. A DE on the otherhand is already a proven pass rusher, but can he stand up and fufill the roles of a LB? Either way, it's a risk, but you have to pick your poison...
I said and meant Wilson. I think he will be a great player but his skillet I have trouble translating into Rex Ryan 3-4 OLB. Not dismissing him at the spot but I'm not convinced he improves the pass rush considerably. He looks great in coverage and is plenty fast for a LB but he lacks the size I'd want at OLB. That's why I think it'd be interesting if he took on a hybrid LB/SS position.
He was 6-4, 250 as a College LB, that alone rarely happens, yet he's too small for OLB? That's not even mentioning he can add 10-20 pounds to his frame. And you think he could play SS at 250???
I didn't know he was that big. Was just going by what I saw and he looked pretty lean. Based the SS bit on his speed and coverage skills but I don't think it's too outlandish.. just put it out there for discussion.
His H/W is in the initial post. Him looking thin is just another reason I believe he could play OLB for Rex. He can put on 20 pounds for the move and carry it well. Analyst saw his pass rushing ability out of HS, he just never got the opportunity to nurture it will playing MLB in a 4-3 D. Again, it comes down to would you rather risk having a DE that can't stand up or a OLB that can't rush the passer well, but can do everything else...
I agree. Again, I don't know anything much about Wilson, but if two OLB prospects are sitting there at #30, one who is Wilson's size and has his experience as a LBer, and the other a college DE, and both are rated at the same grade, I think I'd rather roll the dice with the one who played LBer in college. I think it would be much easier to learn to rush the QB than it would be to learn to read offenses, drop into coverage and play in space. The learning curve and adjustment time to the NFL should be a lot less steep.
Guess this mock is assuming Tanny is gonna have a busy offseason filling our trenches via FA. Though id be pretty excited with most of these picks, especially Murray in round 4