With the 30th pick in the draft, the Jets ... February, 17, 2011 Feb 173:25PM ET By Rich CiminiIt's never too early to look at the NFL draft. The draft will come into focus next week, when the NFL descends on Indianapolis for the annual scouting combine. The Jets own the 30th pick in the first round. What will they do? Three draft gurus, in their early mocks, make predictions for the Jets: Mel Kiper, ESPN: The pick: Rahim Moore, S, UCLA. Kiper's take: "I'm split between my own gut and sources on what the Jets could do here. They have to improve the defensive line, but it's also a deep draft at those positions. Moore represents great value at a need position, the top safety in the draft and a guy who can fly all over the field to intercept passes for coach Rex Ryan, who knows how to get pressure and create forced throws." Todd McShay, ESPN: The pick: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor McShay's take: "The Jets need a reliable presence in the middle of their 3-4 defense, and veteran NT Kris Jenkins has played just seven games combined in the past two seasons. Taylor has the size to anchor the middle of that three-man front and surprisingly good feet for a 350-pound prospect. Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com: The pick: Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor. Rang's take: "Having missed all but seven games over the past two seasons, the Jets can't afford to continue relying on 10-year veteran nose tackle Kris Jenkins. Taylor has the bulk, strength and makes the flashy plays to catch Rex Ryan's attention. Taylor is a bit of a gamble, as he's known to throttle down at times and transferred to Baylor only after being suspended at Penn State, but there is no denying his talent."
Rahim Moore had an OK year, difficult to repeat 10 the INTs of 2009. Has the ability to be a ballhawk. I'm not ready to call Moore a 1st rd talent at this point in time. Safety position not strong at the very top this year...some good rd 2-4 players available. Taylor looks like a true NT and I'm not sure investing a rd 1 pick on Taylor is smart. I'm not convinced he could move to play 3-4 end at times. I think these guys need a "do over".
Fair point, but whts the point of drafting an olb who's lower on ur draft board then say a player at another position of need?
we could draft two guys like dontay moch and chris carter in middle rounds and let them battle for the job
Steven Friday is a possibility in Rd 3, if we go a different direction in the first round. IMO, some have been overvaluing a few 3-4 OLBs in late Rd 1. Sheard is a good player, but I can't give him a Rd 1 grade yet, close still a rd 2 player, almost reminds me of the Linval Joesph Rd 1 hype last year. Things will change, but it's a little premature to rate Sheard so high. Not having a 2nd round pick may come back to haunt us....IMO, Rd 2 has the best value of this draft.
I wouldn't be devastated if the pick were Taylor. It depends on the value available. We have youth with potential elsewhere on the line. Wouldn't be the worst thing to shore up NT. Obviously, OLB is where I want the FO to go if the pick is right, or trade down if it's not and a partner materializes. If we can slide to 2, add a 3rd, and grab someone like Sheard, I'd prefer it to Taylor. I want no part of Rahim Moore in the first round, although if Wilson develops and we find a pass rush, you'd be hard pressed to find a better situation for him to step into.
Derp, derp...they forgot about a guy named P'ouha. Suddenly the need that 2 of 3 "experts" suggest isn't even there. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a sure thing, complete safety if one fell to us. If we get a good safety that can bail out Wilson or Coleman on the regular, we could let cornerback slip a little in talent level.
The more I think about it, the more I like a guy like Moore in the first round. He is probably going to be a high 2nd round pick anyway and he has the skills to be a really good player. I would consider him if we couldnt get a 3-4 rusher in the first round
What are some teams that may be looking to deal a second rounder and additional picks to trade where the Jets are now? My guess would be a team looking to go OL if one of the OTs like Carimi, Smith, Solder or Costanzo is available with the likelihood of the Packers and Steelers going OL. Maybe Detroit at 44 depending on what they do at 12?
Am I the only one that thinks are linebackers are more then capable of getting a consistent pass rush? We have some really good LB's. Pace, Harris, Scott, Thomas. All are very capable. Thomas can be upgraded, but he still maintains his role in this defense. I truly feel like our front is what has been lacking with our pass rush. We don't have guys that can collapse the pocket, take on double teams, and open lanes for the guys to do their jobs. Sure, our line did what was neccessary to win games, but it always felt like Rex was constantly over compensating and disguising this flaw in the defensive unit. Which is what a good coach is supposed to do. I feel like if we can get some youth and a guy that can open up those lanes for our LB's, we will have the consistent pass rush. I don't believe the lack of a pass rush is because our LB's aren't capable of doing so. I just don't feel like when I watched those games, that the lanes were consistently there, and that our line was able to win their individual battles and then some. I just didn't see it. I want a Cam Heyward, JJ Watt, Adrian Clayborn, Cam Jordan, etc... Also.. I'm not a Phil Taylor fan. I like Jerrel Powe more, if we are talking late round NT options, call me crazy.. lol I'm done.
^ Pace is good when he's healthy, but he's not a gamebreaker. Thomas is average and his salary does not equal is production. He's not a pass rusher, he's a run stopper and even he wasn't setting the edge towards the end of the season. Its time to find a kid who scares people and you have to gameplan for.
Hate to agree with Kiper but Moore would be a good pick at #30. Justin Houston's name gets tossed around but I think the jets are pretty much set at LB. I wouldn't rule out Allen Bailey from Miami. He can play several positions along the D-line.
Holy shit. I know you're a fan of a different team, but how have you not picked up anything about the Jets from this board?
They're definitely not SET at LB but people make it out to seem like the team has horrible linebackers. Pace, Scott, and Harris are good/great players. Could definitely use a passrusher to replace Thomas but I wouldn't call the LB a weakness. The pass rush as a whole is a weakness, and I think a lot of that is due to the DL.
I think a lot of this opinion is due to being wrong. ILB isn't the discussion. You can't use Scott and Harris to show OLB isn't a huge need.
