GH's Pre-Super Bowl 2 Rd/Jets Mock

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  1. Green Hurricane

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    Enjoy.



    Round 1

    1. Carolina- DT Nick Fairley, Auburn
    - Absolute animal, you don't fit him in a defense, you fit a defense around him.
    2. Denver- DE Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
    - With Fox out there, look for a switch back to a 43. Bowers is a perfect compliment for Dumervil.
    3. Buffalo- CB Patrick Peterson, LSU
    - Some think Peterson is the best player in the draft, he's simply an elite talent for a defense that needs a spark..
    4. Cincinnati- WR AJ Green, Georgia
    - Pass on a QB to grab one of the best receiver prospects in a decade. I get the feeling they'd have taken him #1.
    5. Arizona- QB Cam Newton, Auburn
    - Ken Wisenhunt will notice the Big Ben comparisons I'm sure, he'll be the face of a franchise in desperate need of one.
    6. Cleveland- DE Robert Quinn, North Carolina
    - Missed an entire season, but I doubt anyone will care. Could easily be the best player in the draft.
    7. San Francisco- CB Prince Amukamara, Nebraska-
    - Smart physical corner to match up with guys like Larry Fitzgerald and Mike Williams out west.
    8. Tennessee- QB Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
    - They need a QB to move on from the chaos that has been this past season.
    9. Dallas- DE Marcel Dareus, Alabama
    - Big time potential to add to a DL that needs a boost. They haven't gotten much from their DEs recently.
    10. Washington- WR Julio Jones, Alabama
    - Offense needs a go to guy, regardless of position. He's the best available.
    11. Houston- DT Cameron Jordan, California
    - Whether they go 34 or 43, they need a quality interior talent.
    12. Minnesota- DE JJ Watt, Wisconsin
    - Jared Allen slowed last year and Ray Edwards will probably be gone.
    13. Detroit- CB Brandon Harris, Miami
    - The Lions are desperate for defensive talent, and Harris has shut down ability.
    14. St. Louis- WR Torrey Smith, Maryland
    - They might prefer a bigger receiver, but Smith is a playmaker that's going to run a 4.3.
    15. Miami- RB Mark Ingram, Alabama
    - Yeah, boring, I know.
    16. Jacksonville- DE Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue
    - As bad as they need corners, DEs are going to be at a premium.
    17. New England (from OAK)- LB Akeem Ayers, UCLA
    - And all of the Jet fans in the building let out a sigh. Can play anywhere.
    18. San Diego- DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
    - Not unlike Dallas, badly need a spark up front.
    19. NY Giants- OT Anthony Costanzo, Boston College
    - Dave Diehl should move back inside, and they don't have any other options at LT.
    20. Tampa Bay- DE Aldon Smith, Missouri
    - Need a passrusher, and they have done very well with getting younger players to produce early.
    21. Kansas City- LB Von Miller, Texas A&M
    - Miller's best possible comparison in the NFL is Derrick Thomas, it's up to KC to make it happen.
    22. Indianapolis- DT Stephen Paea, Oregon State
    - Ideal fit for what the Colts usually look for in a DT. Plus, he's got power few other Indy linemen have.
    23. Philadelphia- CB Johnny Patrick, Louisville
    - A guy I like more than others, physical and not afraid to come up and make plays.
    24. New Orleans- DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio State
    - As good a fit as he is in a 34, he has pretty good potential moving to a 43 at tackle.
    25. Seattle- DT Corey Liuget, Illinois
    - Athletic, penetrating player to step into an underachieving DL.
    26. Baltimore- CB Aaron Williams, Texas
    - He wasn't quite as good as he could have been last year, but big potential.
    27. Atlanta- TE Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
    - Tony G might be gone, but either way they'll need to develop weapons for the future.
    28. New England- OT Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State
    - Matt Light is just about done, and Sherrod is a legitimate LT.
    29. Chicago- WR Jon Baldwin, Pittsburgh
    - Could be a dangerous threat early when paired with the speed Chicago has outside.
    30. NY Jets- DE Jabaal Sheard, Pittsburgh
    - Yeah, he's a stud.
    31. Pittsburgh- OT Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
    - They've needed OL help forever, as as nice as two Pounceys would be, Tackle is a bigger need.
    32. Green Bay- DT Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple
    - They're more likely than not going to lose Cullen Jenkins, they'll need to plug someone in.


    Round 2

    33. New England (from CAR)- OG Rodney Hudson, Florida State
    - Overachieving, hardworking, and just a really good player, he'll be an excellent fit in NE.
    34. Buffalo- OT Tyron Smith, USC
    - No matter who their QB is, they need at least one guy who can protect him.
    35. Cincinnati- RB Mikel Leshoure, Illinois
    - The rebuild of the Bengal offense continues, Cedric Benson won't be back.
    36. Denver- CB Jimmy Smith, Colorado
    - Bailey could stay or go, either way they'll need to prepare for the future.
    37. Cleveland- LB Martez Wilson, Illinois
    - They really have no good linebackers. He and Quinn would be tremendous additions.
    38. Arizona- OT Nate Solder, Colorado
    - Can't draft Cam Newton without trying to keep him alive, right?
    39. Tennessee- OG Mike Pouncey, Florida
    - He's overrated by some, but is a quality player as long as no one tries to move him to center.
    40. Dallas- S DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson
    - McDaniel can be a fantastic NFL safety, just needs to be consistent.
    41. Washington- QB Jake Locker, Washington
    - Shanahan will no doubt believe he can get out of Locker what many think he's capable of.
    42. Houston- S Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
    - They added a young CB last year who struggled a bit as a rookie, a smart safety like Carter will help.
    43. Minnesota- DT Phil Taylor, Baylor
    - They play their best with one quick tackle and one monster, Taylor will step in for Pat Williams when he walks away.
    44. Detroit- LB Mason Foster, Washington
    - Need a LB, and Foster is arguably the best traditional 43 LB in the draft.
    45. San Francisco- WR Randall Cobb, Kentucky
    - Crabtree was up and down, the QB play is shaky, and overall consistency is poor, but Cobb is a guy that can help change it all.
    46. Denver (from MIA)- TE DJ Williams, Arkansas
    - Offensive firepower isn't bad, but I'm sure John Elway remembers the benefits of a skilled TE.
    47. St. Louis- DT Drake Nevis, LSU
    - Quality interior player that can help disrupt things and make life easier for Chris Long.
    48. Oakland- CB Brandon Burton, Utah
    - They won't have any cornerbacks left, and they'll take whoever runs the fastest 40.
    49. Jacksonville- CB Davon House, New Mexico
    - Depth at the position in Rd 2 allows them to put off their biggest need a bit.
    50. San Diego- WR Leonard Hankerson, Miami
    - There's no way that Jackson and Floyd will both return.
    51. Tampa Bay- LB Greg Jones, Michigan State
    - Small, but intelligent and tough linebacker for a young defense.
    52. NY Giants- LB Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
    - Need linebackers more than anything, will be multiple picks dedicated here by the G-Men.
    53. Indianapolis- S Rahim Moore, UCLA
    - Bob Sanders simply can't be relied upon any more, and Moore can be a nice playmaker.
    54. Philadelphia- LB Bruce Carter, North Carolina
    - They have some good LBs, so they can wait until he's healthy to tap his amazing potential.
    55. Kansas City- DT Jerrell Powe, Ole Miss
    - Big clogging nose tackle for the defense.
    56. New Orleans- DE Sam Acho, Texas
    - Played well so far this offseason, and fits on a speed-oriented DL.
    57. Seattle- QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
    - Falls a loooong way, but no one should be that surprised. More questions will come up soon.
    58. Baltimore- S Jarrard Tarrant, Georgia Tech
    - Underrated player, brings a real attitude to the position that Raven players usually possess.
    59. Atlanta- DE Allen Bailey, Miami
    - Late 2nd is good for his potential and lack of productivity. That said, he'll probably dominate the combine and go top 15.
    60. New England- RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
    - Nothing short of bad news for every other NFL team.
    61. San Diego (from NYJ)- LB Brooks Reed, Ariona
    - Bad man rising up the charts, the combine will tell us how high he'll go.
    62. Chicago- OT DeMarcus Love, Arkansas
    - Good player, he just might not have what it takes to be a tackle in the NFL.
    63. Pittsburgh- OG Danny Watkins, Baylor
    - Start outside, then move inside, Pittsburgh continues to build their OL.
    64. Green Bay- RB DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma
    - Speedy back will be an instant upgrade for GB to go with Ryan Grant.


    Jets Mock:

    3. DE Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson
    - Prototype fit for the 34, great at occupying and shedding blockers.
    4. DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame
    - Got hurt this season, but strong body made for the nose.
    5. OT Lee Ziemba, Auburn
    - Some say he's a guard, but I like his potential as a Right Tackle. Insurance if Hunter isn't brought back/Ducasse needs to be inside.
    6. TE Lee Smith, Marshall
    - Fantastic blocker, would play the Wayne Hunter role if he starts/leaves.
    7. LB Akeem Dent, Georgia
    - Tough, hardworking linebacker, would be good backup inside.
     
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  2. Mr Electric

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    I was hoping GreenHornet made a mock.

    I'd be pumped if the Jets draft went that way - all of those picks are great.

    You really think Solder is going to fall into the second?

    Did you forget about James Starks on the Packers?

    Props for giving guys like Johnny Patrick and Jarrard Tarrant some love - they're damn good players that are flying under the radar right now.

    Colin Kaepernick has passed guys like Mallett and Locker - teams like Washington, Minnesota, and Seattle will take a long look at Kaepernick.
     
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  3. Green Hurricane

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    Solder isn't nearly as far along as the other senior tackles in this draft, he's lean and does not appear to be as good of an athlete as people think (and as a former TE should be). I think a lot of it is mental, he's got the body to develop down the line, but right now there's a lot of work to be done before he'll be a consistent player. It's good value in Rd 2, but for late Rd 1/playoff teams looking for boost to their line he won't be the guy.

    Starks has shown a lot, but he's pretty much the same type of player as Ryan Grant. If they bring in a COP back to go with that offensive firepower and Rodgers' ability to move in the pocket they could be even more dangerous than they already are.

    I looked into Tarrant after I saw you hyping him, and Johnny Patrick is a kid I've seen dominate in person. The kid is a complete cornerback.


    * As for Kaepernick, I'm waiting to put him any higher until the combine. Right now, I see him going to the Niners in the 3rd, but seeing him throw against Newton, Gabbert, and Mallet will tell me a lot.
     
  4. Mr Electric

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    Kaepernick has a deceptively strong arm - he was a highly touted pitcher coming out of high school, so that tells me he can sling it.

    I've watched this kid grow as a passer (literally) - he was like 175 pounds when he took over at Nevada. I think he's around 225 now, and he can probably get to around 240 without losing any speed. Except for Cam Newton, no quarterback runs better than this kid.

    The main knock on this kid is the pistol offense. If he's drafted into a situation where he can sit and learn, I think he'll be a damn good quarterback down the road.

    * Mason Foster would be an absolute terror in Detroit - that kid is so nasty.
     
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  5. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    I'd be stoked if this was the Jets' draft. Sheard, Jenkins and Williams would all be solid choices on the front seven.

    I don't know much about Ziemba or Smith.

    I would like to see us bring in a safety to compete for a spot but we can work with what we have if there is no quality player available to us.
     
  6. Green Hurricane

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    Oh don't worry, I'm not denying the fact that the kid can throw, I just think that seeing him literally up against these other guys in competitive setting will say a lot about him. And I think the words you used were appropriate considering he literally does sling it when he throws (even Vince Young-ish at times). He'll definitely need to work on the release to improve accuracy down the field, but he can really fire the ball out. Considering I thought of him as a pretty intriguing receiver convert option before the year, he's made some tremendous strides already.
     
  7. Green Hurricane

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    I was going to add a safety, but I think that Dwight Lowery has a real future at the position. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does with an entire offseason of work there.
     
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    The Packers drafted Mike Neal last year and like him a lot despite being on IR this year. I don't see them going DL in the first round. I'd say BPA in reason but more so targeting LB or OL. RB in round 2 is questionable with Grant and Starks rotating next year (probably) but a better RB would still be great.

    As far the Jets, DL 3 straight picks? ew
     
  9. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    I agree Lowery has a role but I just think we need a bigger guy in the defensive backfield, someone who can play in the box as well as cover to add to the platoon. E Smith was pretty good this year but the guy is shaping up to be Eric Barton at safety. Too many dumb penalties.
     
  10. Mambo9

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    Gee... now where have I heard that before... some retarded poster probably...

    two questions:

    1) You think Jenkins will still be there in the third?

    2) You're not dratfing any WRs because you think we'll keep both H&E, because of a lack of talent in the later rounds or because you simply believe it's not a need?
     
  11. HardHitta

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    Didn't we give up our 5th for Santonio ?
     
  12. JohnnyThaJet

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    It was our 5th last season my friend .
     
  13. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Looks like GreenHurricane got something wrong here!:beer:
     
  14. Green Hurricane

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    nothing wrong with mike Neal, but I really don't see the potential in him to replace what Jenkins does. Big Wilkerson has potentially elite skills for the position and a team with relatively few needs (no value option at OLB and I'll wait to see who they lose in FA on OL) can afford to take a shot at top players.

    And like I said before, Grant and Starks are the same player, a speedy back would only help.

    As for the three front seven picks, Im not sure many people would agree with your sentiments of "ew".

    Unless were going safety early there's really no way to guarantee Rey get a big, complete safety like the one you described. I do believe that Dawan Landry is a legitimate option if they go the FA route, but beyond looking there I'm not sure just how they could really improve the position.

    I see no reason why Jenkins wouldn't be there. He's a mid round guy who moved up a bit after the senior bowl, but there are still a number of higher rated similar players on the board at the end of my second round.

    I looked at WR in a few rounds, but ultimately opted to contnue beefing up the DL. Plus, choosing a certain receiver would be impossible without having a real idea of what the jets plan on doing with their FAs. If Braylon goes and Tandon Doss is there in Rd 3, he'll be a great option.

    No.

    A short break from genius.
     
  15. mj2sexay

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    If the draft falls this way, I'd love to see the Jets trade back to the early second, pick up some extra picks and take Moore. I know safety isn't the need that D-Line is, but I think this kid's upside puts him as the best safety in the draft. It's also a possibility that they sign either Landy or Zibskowski so the need might evaporate come draft time.

    I'd also like the Jets to take a long hard look at Wilkerson, except I like your rational of just nabbing that elite pass-rusher while they can. Sheard is a BEAST. I think you might be able to find d-line help in the third round. The one pass-rusher I'm really high on that I can see being there in the beginning of the third is Beal, but considering where our pick is in the third round, he's not an option unless they trade up in the third.
     
  16. Green Hurricane

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    Can't pass on a rush LB to take a safety, even if it means trading down to get extra picks. Starting caliber safeties can be found later or in FA if that's really where they wanted to go, but top notch rush linebackers are clearly a bit tougher to pull. I'm really starting to buy into the fact that Sheard's aggressiveness is absolutely what they need to bring in.

    Also, I really like Beal, but unless he's a guy that takes an unlikely fall, he won't be there in Rd 3 for our late pick.
     
  17. mj2sexay

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    I'm with you on Beal. I'm not going to pay a lot of attention to the senior bowl when they asked him to put his hand on the ground because that's not his role in the NFL. He does worry me in run support.

    All in all, real solid job on the mock especially compared to some of the muck we see this time of year. As I said in my previous post, I agree with your rational of taking a big-time rusher as long as one is available, and Sheard is a guy that I think has the potential to be a big-time pass rusher in the 3-4. Love his mean streak and attitude. I'd only be for a trade down if the pass rushers are all gone and they think they can fill multiple wholes (for example trading down to get two second rounders and taking Brooks Reed and Rahim Moore would be a sick save if Tanny can't get or isn't sold on the suspects that will be there late in the first such as Sheard and Wilkerson). But if the Jets take Sheard and he's half as good as our last 1st rounder from Pitt, not only will Jets fans be very happy but this defense will break through from very good to great.
     
  18. CodeGreen

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    I seem to be in the minority of people who don't think that the Cards are going to draft Cam Newton in the first round
     
  19. TheCoolerGlennFoley

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    I think it makes sense to everyone else, but I don't think Shanahan goes WR. He's never drafted one in the first round and had some success getting guys later.

    And obviously can't account for it now, but I think Arizona winds up trading for a veteran QB. With Larry a year away from free agency, as good as Cam is, I'm not sure going through the growing pains associated with starting a rookie QB is what he has on his mind.
     
  20. BK_Jetsfan

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    Agreed. Really good draft. I didn't realize Williams was hurt last year (as I've said before, I dropped the college FB following last season). I would be pretty fucking thrilled if we got him in the third.
     

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