Martin&thejets mock draft first of 2011 (up to round 5)

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  1. MagillaGuerilla

    MagillaGuerilla New Member

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    That's what you want though, you want a athletic passcatcher at the 2nd TE position, well then it shouldn't matter, he can catch passes better than Rob Turner, Wayne Hunter, Ben Hardstock, or Matt Mulligan, so he should be out there right?

    Or maybe the Jets don't want an athletic passcatcher as the 2nd TE, rather a blocker like most #2 TEs are, yet do not have, so they stick a lineman out there instead...
     
  2. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Unless you average 3.2 yards in a game and you have to rely on your QB to make plays and try to come back from a 24-3 deficit. Sounds like it was the other way around we tried to stick to our ground and pound game plan too long. Got bottled up went to the air and nearly came back and won it. You do what works. If we go to an air-raid offense so be it.
     
  3. MagillaGuerilla

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    That had to do with more of who the Jets were running and when, not to mention it was against one of the best defenses in the NFL.

    Shonn Greene should have had 8 of 9 of LT's carries, his style is better fit to grind through a tough D compared to LT's "finesse", which is about all he has left...
     
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    Also there was no deception in our run game, when we were passing we had Keller on the field, when we weren't he had either Wayne Hunter or Hartsock at TE which lead the defense to believe we were automatically running.

    Like I put in my draft we need another TE who is a better blocker then Keller but has the ability to catch in play action. This adds a whole nother dimension to our Offense and allows Sanchez more time for throws. Thats why another Keller wouldnt really make the most sense although durable.
     
  5. MagillaGuerilla

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    The Jets do need a 2nd TE, someone like Lee or Andre Smith, great blockers, but with soft hands. Drafting another receiving only TE would be just as big of a tell as putting a lineman out there. Which is why I believe, along with the reasons I previously mentioned, Cam Graham would be a bad pick. It's not what they need...
     
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    My second choice at TE would be Charlie Gantt from Michigan St.
     
  7. Harpua

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    Your acting as if Graham would be like lining up a slot receiver at TE. Not he's not a great blocker, but thats not to say he's completely incapable of it as well. Gronk was a big body, with soft hands, who could block coming out of Arizona . He's also a former second round pick, like Hernandez. He's also Arizona's all time leader for receiving records foer a TE and was known as a very good one coming out of school, not a blocking TE. We are not in the position to spend a high pick on a player like that, so we may select one furter down.

    Again, a fitth rounder is going to bring in marginal talents that have up side, not quick fixes. Graham is 6-4 253. He can learn the blocking side of the game. Finding a big body whos a mauler of a blocker and a good receiver is not easy and often costs high picks. I would have no problems with the Jets taking a chance on a guy with a pick that is only slightly better than singing a UFDA. There may be better talents available at the position in round five, but thats a bit of another argument.
     
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  8. MagillaGuerilla

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    Now I agree with that 10x better, blocking is his forte', yet still still has good hands. Good size for the redzone, something the Jets need. His ability to block alone would do so much for the PA...
     
  9. MagillaGuerilla

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    For a 2nd TE, it would be. Athleticism at both positions is unnecessary, especially when you need blocking at the position.

    Sure, you could coach Graham up to an extent, but he'll never be known for his blocking, he'll always be a passcatcher.

    Gronk is a great blocker and receiver, but he still has limitations that he can't bring to the field like Hernandez can. But at the same time, Hernandez can't match what Gronk brings to the field. Thus, the Pats split up the job of a TE into 2 players, the way 2 TE sets are used...
     
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    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    To me Hernandez and Gronkowski are similar players.
     
  11. Mr Electric

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    To me, it seems like you need to watch them play a little bit more.
     
  12. MagillaGuerilla

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    Hernandez is not nearly the same caliber blocker as Gronkowski, not even in the same league. On the flip side, Gronkowski can't touch Hernandez's athleticism.

    Gronkowski is the bigger redzone target at 6-6, while Hernandez can be a matchup problem with linebackers with his speed.

    If I had to pick one, Gronkowski is by far the more complete TE, but is still lacking in big play ability like a Jason Witten or KC era Tony Gonzalez...
     
  13. Mr Electric

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    Aaron Hernandez is barely 6'1 and weighs just over 240 pounds - his game is built around speed. He's a walking, talking mismatch at the position.

    Rob Gronkowski is 6'6 265. He's basically an undersized tackle that can run and catch - the only reason he was around for the Patriots in the second round is because he's injury prone.

    They're not the same, not even close.
     
  14. Green Hurricane

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    Be careful E, you don't want to get on Martin's hate list.
     
  15. Kid.Supreme

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    .. i like this mock alot with the exception of sheard.

    i rather take kerrigan from purdue, quinn from unc, or justin houston as a 3-4 rushing OLB.

    Ryan Kerrigan, Height: 6-4. Weight: 255.
    Robert Quinn, Height: 6-5. Weight: 268.
    Justin Houston, Height: 6-3. Weight: 257

    Dont forget that Sam Acho from Texas will be available in the 3rd Rd. he wont get past the 3rd though..
     
  16. Mr Electric

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    Robert Quinn will likely be a top ten pick.

    Ryan Kerrigan will likely be a top twenty pick.

    Justin Houston could be around, but I'd rather have Sheard.
     
  17. Kid.Supreme

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    i'm starting to warm up to him.

    sheard absolutely dominated miami.
     
  18. Doogstein

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    Funny how things change in 40 minutes.
     
  19. Kid.Supreme

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    lol. relax...

    i said warming up to him... i didnt say i'd take him in the first, especially if Wilkerson is on the board.
     

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