I disagree with you that Santonio Holmes isn't worth that much. When Holmes is at his best, he's dominant. I guess the same can be said about Braylon Edwards too, but Holmes is more dangerous. Holmes is a huge reason why this team made it to the playoffs. He made plays that won games. In my opinion, he'd be worth every penny.
None of those guys are worth that kind of money to be honest. But, if one guy has to get tagged, it should be Harris. He is vital, and cannot be easily replaced. The other 4 guys can all be replaced.
...says the guy that calls our quarterback "Suckchez". The receivers are more important to this team.
If i was going to tag one guy w/o intent to trade, it would be Holmes. 9+ mil isn't too much a stretch, and gives us an idea if he can keep out of trouble. They may try to tag and trade someone though, which i can see as a possibility for any of them.
I would tag Holmes. One year for 9.5 mil is reasonable for a game changer of his caliber. Plus, it gives the Jets a safety net incase he gets himself suspended again.
He's definitely really good. Is he among the top five-ten in the league at his position-which is about how good you have to be to be "worthy" of the tag? Maybe. It's not stupid-the tag does let you keep a player year to year and you avoid the risk of a giant signing bonus for a player you may have to dump if he gets unruly.
Santonio won us 4 games by himself. We never would have won the Lions, Browns, Broncos and Houston game in the past because we never have had a playmake like him. Harris is very good, not great.
how much is david harris seriously going to ask per year? this 9mil a year number is ridiculous. he isnt an elite inside linebacker. he is a very good one though. the jets need to be dominate on offense, and stopping other quarterbacks. i dont see david harris doing this.
I think who we franchise will depend a lot on who we can get under contract. If the scenario is that all these players will walk unless they are franchised, I would probably take Braylon. Sanchez and the Jets can't afford to let their top 2 receiving threats walk. There are a few reasons I chose Braylon over Santonio. For one, I can't see Holmes being happy getting the Franchise tag. Braylon wants to be here, and seems to consistently give more effort than Holmes. If you think Holmes seemed to not play 100% at some points this year, imagine a malcontent Holmes still waiting for his first big FA contract. Edwards was the 3rd overall pick so he's already gotten a big contract, and he's already grateful to us for getting him out of Cleveland. Second, while I think Santonio is an amazing talent and big play threat, I think Braylon is the better all around fit for our offense. He provides a big physical target for Sanchez to throw it in to. Santonio is more dangerous on the slant, but Edwards seems like the safer more consistent target. Edwards is also a much better blocker, which is huge for a team that likes to run or throw those wide receiver screens a lot. Finally, Sanchez and Baylon seem to be on the same page more so than Sanchez and Holmes. I'm sure this is a function of just being together an extra year, but I like the chemistry between those two.
With things looking like the NFL will use an impasse rather than a lockout the question arises what will the NFL's last offer be. I can imagine that last offer will likely make 4 and 5 year players this restricted FA's for 2011 only and maybe even 6th year players which would solve a lot of our 2011 problems. It would make sense for the owners last offer to be very team friendly for 2011. But until March happens and we see if they use an Impasse and what the terms are its hard to speculate on something not knowing the rules. But one can imagine the owners last offer will make 2011 very team friendly. Maybe even another uncapped year. Either way if they use an impasse I would expect it will likely be very Jet friendly.
If we are able to sign either Braylon or Holmes to a contract, I think the next priority becomes making sure we have a solid #2 corner. I would franchise Cromartie before Harris because in our defense having corners who can handle their man 1 on 1 is just so important... not to mention how few corners in the league can handle that role. There are significantly more players that could fill David Harris' role than could fill Cromarties role.
I hope we sign whichever WR we think is less long term of a risk and gve the other the franchise if we can't get an extension done. Bottomline is these two Wrs need to come back next year at the expense of anyone else. I absolutely think either WR will be worth the franchise amount. I love David Harris as much as the next guy but if it comes down to losing one of the Wrs or David Harris I would prefer to lose Harris. Sanchez is the most important Jet and his continued development should be priority number one and that means keeping the weapons for him. It sounds like getting Harris signed is priority number one for the Jets and don't think that is the right strategy. I think he should be priority 3 or probably 4 with Cro or an upgrade at CB being 3. I'd feel more comfortable going in to next season with an unknown or downgrade at ILB than I would at CB or WR.
As far as I can tell Harris still seems to be RFA, at leas for the moment. The question is, if the NFL and NFLPA get a deal done, does Harris become a UFA or is their a deadline to when the player is actually classified as a UFA or RFA. If Harris is an RFA than no reason to franchise him just tender him, and Tag Edwards. If Harris is a UFA I would say to tag Harris and then get deals done with both WR and let Harris wait a year (unfortunately for him) Honestly, I want Harris more than I want to keep both WR. As good as both Holmes and Edwards are, Sanchez still has some quality options on the team. Also since Schotty doesnt seem to know how to run an offense, its not worth paying two guys top dollar unless both are expecting to the two big components in the offense, and since the Jets are a run first team any way, parting with one guy may not be that bad
Lots of people seem to agree with that sentiment. I personally think we give our team the best chance to win, and help Sanchez, but creating a dominant D. there is no need to lock all our money up at WR when we play a ground and pound game. Even with great WR's, our strategy should not be built on getting into shootouts with great offensive teams. One of them will likely walk, or preferably be traded. Unfortunately that trade would come post draft unless new deal is worked out before then.
The answer is (1) it completely depends on the next CBA but (2) all of the reporting is that players with four years of time are going to be free agents (instead of RFAs) in the next CBA. So Harris is a RFA who will almost certainly become a UFA once there is a deal in place.
I'm going on recall but didn't Braylon sign a 1 year $6.something M deal for 2010? Aren't both receivers worth about that much? Granted Holmes made a couple spectacular plays to win games, but he had a shitload of drops at important points as well. Braylon had great hands and I think was underutilized because Holmes was on the squad. The same could be said for Keller. Obviously this is all speculation based on what we saw this year. Expect Sanchez to get a restructured deal. He's scheduled to have a $17+M cap number or something ridiculous. He's our franchise QB, but he's no Peyton. Just throwing a number out there for the hell of it, what about $6.5M for each receiver? Does that work?
Hi. You guys are so knowledgeable over here. I wanted to join you. Are the franchise and transition tag numbers out for this season, yet? I'm not sure. In the mean time, I think someone asked? Here are the official numbers used for 2010 to provide some perspective. CORNERBACK: $9.566 million (franchise), $8.056 million (transition) DEFENSIVE END: $12.398m, $10.193m DEFENSIVE TACKLE: $7.003m, $6.353m LINEBACKER: $9.680m, $8.373m OFFENSIVE LINE: $10.731m, $9.142m PUNTER/KICKER: $2.814m, $2.629m QUARTERBACK: $16.405m, $14.546m RUNNING BACK: $8.156m, $7.151m SAFETY: $6.455m, $6.011m TIGHT END: $5.908m, $5.248m WIDE RECEIVER: $9.521m, $8.651m Source: nj.com (Beat Writers Blog/Jan 2010) Franchising Santonio or Braylon looks the cheapest, using these numbers, by just a bit. Albert Breer at NFL Network has reported more than once that he thinks the Jets are most likely to franchise Harris OR Holmes if they opt to use the tag. I don't get the vibe from what he's said there's intent to trade if one of those guys gets tagged, either. But, I don't know. Who knows if what he's saying is even accurate, but it's what he's speculating, at the very least. I sort of wonder if Cromartie wouldn't be a good candidate for the tag. I don't think he should be getting paid that much, but... Personally, I think it's imperative that the offense stay together, however the Jets need to do that, I think they should, so if it means they need to tag Holmes for a year, so be it. Having said that, Tanny stressed how imperative it is that Kyle Wilson start to take the next steps in his game, and how important this year is for him. Is it possible they keep Cromartie one more season as an expensive "rental", that also lets them figure out if Kyle's going to be able to step up enough they can move on from Cromartie in the future, thus not having to tie up as much money long term in that role? Just a thought, I don't know if it makes sense.
How much do you think Cro would look for in terms of contract? i think we should retain him. Tag price is high, as is top 10 CB. Top 20 CB pay would be worth it imo. We've given up a lot for him, and he fits our system. had a good year really.
